Batman...WTF? said:
iberz said:
Batman...WTF? said:
iberz said:
Batman...WTF? said:
Batman...WTF? said:
iberz said:
Batman...WTF? said:
iberz said:
Batman...WTF? said:
iberz said:
Actually for a matter of fact, all the arms companies that Dick Cheney has investments in have made huge amounts of money off the war. The Iraq War was not about oil, it was about bloody securing more deals for arms companies.
War my friend is the biggest industry in the world. While your very poor soldiers, I genuinely pity them with all my heart, are being anally raped by the government, Dick Cheney is making a whole lot of money.
Oh and just for the reference, I met William Rodriquez a few weeks back and since then I've started to believe even more firmly that these attacks were planned. |
Well duh, they were planned! This was perhaps the biggest terrorist attack EVER. Are you saying the Bush Administration planned it? Were they behind the London and Madrid attacks as well? Oh curse them.
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You cannot compare the London or Madrid attacks to 9/11, they were nothing alike and were not on anything like the same scale.
I'm not exactly sure how much involvement they had but here is what I am sure of:
If they never actually carried out the attacks themselves, they certainly heavily supported the operation. I'm sorry but if you think weak guerilla groups in Afghanistan/Pakistan could ever plan such a complex attack on their own which such great success, then you a) heavily overrate them and b) Dont really know anything about those groups
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And why can't I compare them? They were all caused by terrorists. You saying the government planned this is like saying FDR told the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor.
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Well they are different because madrid/london were suicide bombers. Suicide bombing is alot easier to carry out, build bombs at home, go to train station, detontate them.
9/11 is far more complicated. Plus it involves alot more than those things you mentioned. I do genuinenly believe bombs on each level brought it down.
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So... Planes crashing into a building, starting a fire that began to weaken the steel to less than half it's strength, and then that steel having to hold several tons didn't have anything to with it? There are three problems with that theory. A) Who planted those bombs? How'd the government keep them quiet? Did they kill them? HOLY CRAP! The government can be behind the biggest terrorist attack in history, kill anyone who might talk about it, but can't do something about the two guys who just revealed their plot to the world? Not even take down their website? Wow, that story isn't full of holes b) If this whole thing is government conspiracy, the how come NO ONE came forth and said anything? I mean, think about all the people who had to be involved! Look at other conspiracies. I'll use Iran-Contra as an example. A much smaller conspiracy, yet almost everyone found out, and then Oliver North's came forth and said, yes, we did sell arms to Iran. 3) How the hell did Bush get all of this together in 7 months? Are you saying this was what he wanted to become president for? That he planned this since his childhood? Much smarter than the man everyone calls an imbecile.
Another thing that you said bothered me. You said 9/11 was way more complicated then I what I said. Are their thing that happened that I don't know about? Learn to fly a plane, but not landing them, hijack a plane, crash it. No way anyone could plan that out.
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Well seeing how you didn't respond, I'm going to guess you gave up trying to argue with me, posted too many times so this got lost in your history or realized I was right and didn't respond. I'll leave you to a) be angry with my ignorance, b) never respond again or c) revel in my awesome debating skills.
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Oh and about the choices, I'd go for c). But only because you dont fit the typical american stereotype who simply blindly follows whatever the govt. tells you, you seem a bit more intelligent than that.
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The Muslims aren't clever enough for that? If I didn't know better, I'd call that a racial stereotype. Now, you say Mossad is guilty of this, what did they do? Did they plant the bombs? Or fly the planes? Because the black box has the hijackers speaking Arabic, not Hebrew. Al Qaeda is behind this, just like they were behind the attacks in Istanbul, Kenya, and Tanzania. See, when you say Mossad is behind this, you forget the 1993 WTC bombings. Carried out by... Al Qaeda. Bush was Israel's closest ally for a long time, and that was in his campaign. So, if Mossad was behind this, they were a) completely ignorant of Bush's promises to help Israel, b) didn't give a flying sh*t and attacked America anyway. Or, it could've been pulled off by the group that signed a fatwa against America. Bin Laden's 1996 fatwa is entitled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places". This document is sometimes called the Ladenese epistle, a term derived from bin Laden's surname. It is a long piece, and complains of American activities in numerous countries.
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Its a true stereotype. I'm a muslim and live in a large muslim community and can tell you its a true stereotype.
I reckon Mossad did both. It doesnt matter what the hijackers are speaking, speaking hebrew would be foolish since it would point all the evidence towards mossad. ALL mossad agents are fluent in arabic, its a requirement.
About it being Al-Qaeda, all we know in that respect is a video of terrible quality that doesnt even show Bin Ladens face properly. Check on the FBI website, while it states that Bin Laden was behind tanzania, istanbul and kenya, it says bin laden is suspected of being behind 9/11. And on the 1993 WTC bombings, they were a complete shambles, they failed beyond proportion and was blatantly the work of amateurs, that I would believe may have been muslim terrorists.
Why would Mossad not do it because of Bush? Bush and Cheney have made alot of money from 9/11. It allowed them to invade Iraq and Afghanistan where america's arms companies were able to make huge profits. You ask me Mossad did Bush and Cheney a favour there.
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No. No dear God no. It was not a favor. It was a national tragedy and no man is sick enough to attack his own people and kill many more for money for American arms makers
The WTC bombings were ill conceived yes, but that led Al Qaeda think of a new way to attack America.
What would Mossad motivation behind these attacks? To get help in the Middle East? Bush promised to give them aid when he running for president. If that was what they wanted, why didn't they make the attacks to look like a bigger enemy in the Middle East caused them, like Iran or Syria. The Taliban was a threat to Israel, no where near Mahomoud Ahmadinejad.
As for not seeing Osama's face clearly in the FBI video, I don't know where you're coming from, look at this. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Bin_laden_12_27a.jpg
Then look at a picture of him from earlier http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070104/070104_osama_vlrg_8a.widec.jpg
Osama later admitted to the WTC attacks. So Mossad contacted him to admit to the attacks? Osama, who hates Israel, decided to help them? Maybe he was threatened with death.
So according to you, Bush and Mossad were working together to have planes target the WTC's, the US Capitol, and the Pentagon? Wait the Pentagon? Mossad's motivation would be something about getting U.S Military aid in the Middle East, so they crash a plane into the Center of the US Army, huh? Then try and crash a plane into the Capitol Building so it would be impossible to declare war until the Senators were replaced?
According to me, Islamic radicals declared war on the U.S in 1996 which is a fact. They planned out the attacks for quite some time. On 9/11, 4 planes were hijacked. Two attacked a symbol of trade and a symbol of America. One was headed to the Pentagon, to leave the U.S Army in shambles. One was headed to the U.S Capitol Building, to try and bring us to the very edge of anarchy (This was Flight 93, and if you have any idea what happened on that flight, you would know that people decided to kill themselves to save the lives of others.
Also, unless you aren't a Muslim living in a large Islamic community, you basically admitted that you're an idiot by saying that stereotype is a true stereotype.
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