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robjoh said:
finalsquall said:
omgwtfbbq said:
finalsquall said:

Sorry, you say the PS3 appeals to everyone and not the Wii?

You're saying the Wii lacks the "middle gamers" which you define as people who like "platformers, racing car games everyday games sports". Aside from the ridiculous assertion that Nintendo doesn't appeal to platformer fans, you then have racing games, where Wii has the second largest racing franchise in the world (Mario Kart) and sports games where the Wii has the best selling sports game ever (Wii Sports) as well as the potential for some fantastic sports games (Golf, Tennis, etc). I have no idea what "everyday games" are.

Sorry, but the reason why the Wii is selling so well is that it appeals to everyone. And the PS3 is doing poorly because it doesn't appeal to everyone. It's as simple as that.

 


Show me where nintendo appeals to all. I couldn't give a rats ass about any nintendo games.... Only ppl I know who buy Nintendo are kids. Now maybe because I'm not in that circle, But I dont know any hardcore teen/adult players that play it sorry.

The PS wins because it does cater to all. Prove me wrong and tell me Sony does not cater to most players. I'm not talking just the ps3 (games aren't here to base that yet) but look at ps1 and ps2 (soon ps3) and tell me it doesn't cater.

Wii caters to kids, soccer mum and grannies- that is the buzz on the net. Wii hardcore games look like a kids game. seriously.

Also how is mario cart the 2nd largest franchise? I mean come on you saying it beats GT and Forza? You gotta be kidding right? The Wii is a joke. Anyways, that how I see it as imo.

Well to mii the wii is a second console choice. It's a fad that will slow down soon. Wii is going to be oversaturated with wii's and crap games.


Well let us start from the top as you should do when you are argumenting:

Only people I know that playes Nintendo games are above 24, are we kids? Last weekend I was at a party were I meet three guys discussing Zelda TP for Wii. I know about 6 persons that own a Wii for the moment non as I said is a kid.

The PS3 is not the PS1 or the PS2. I am not saying that it wont become as the PS1/2 but for the moment it is a pure Hardcore machine becuase of price alone.

That was the second time you called Wii games "kiddy" I think we have had that discussion before. You are looking at your gaming needs and think that every hardcore gamer wants the same. I like the graphical design on Mario, I did like Battalion Wars last gen and is going to buy BW2 when that arrives.

Mario Kart is the second largest racing franchise becuase sales number is saying just that.

And Wii might be a joke according to YOU, that doesn't mean that other gamers doesn't think it is a joke.

Then he ends the whole argument that Wii is a fad and will slow down soon. You do know that PS-fans has said that since januari right? It was also the same thing people said about the DS vs PSP.

 

Thank you for backing me up robjoh. I notice finalsquall hasn't replied to this post in the standard Sony fanboy "selective replying" mentality they get into where it's convenient to ignore reality.

I will simply add to your argument since you basically said everything I was going to:

the reason the PS1 and PS2 had a diverse library was not some magical "diversify" pixie dust that Sony sprinkled on their console. The reason is quite simply, the PS2 had the largest install base and therefore got the most third party support. More games means more diversity.

Currently, the PS3 has the least third party support out of all three consoles, and this does not look to be changing in the near future. So with the least support comes less diversity, and a more niche, focused console. Which is, of course, excellent for those people who are in that niche, as well as developers who target that particular niche.

I don't quite understand why Sony fans need to convince themselves that the PS3 is going to sell more than Xbox360 and Wii despite all evidence to the contrary. It's not that big a deal, if you like the PS3 now chances are you will love the games that will come out for it in the future. The Gamecube and Xbox were niche consoles, but that doesn't mean they didn't get any good games.  



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@ WiteoutKing )

I can verify this - the people interested in games at the university I go to all are Wii-owners aswell and so are some of my friends. As always I'm the black sheep with the PS3 , but I don't care for I'm as happy with my console as they are with theirs and it's all good.



GD it, I'm really getting sick and tired of this forum and it's constant flaming! They'd better call this website VGwarchartz. Putting up a chart of who flames the best, sjeez!!



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*~Onna76~* said:
GD it, I'm really getting sick and tired of this forum and it's constant flaming! They'd better call this website VGwarchartz. Putting up a chart of who flames the best, sjeez!!

 Sorry M'i lady *bows head* I shall stop and admit that I was wrong and the Wii is king of all consoles. This shall bring an end to the flamming arguments over nothingness. I will thus become a Wii fan Boy! I Now Serve KING MARIO! :P



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It's because people are so tense and aggressive here and can't seem to enjoy these forums.



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But the Wii is a fad. You know... Just like the DS was suppossed to be right?

@FinalSqual

With its sales, I don't think the PS3 is showing us we need anything this generation, in fact, it's showing most gamers they don't need it. I'd also rather avoid a larger format disc that either requires compromising the disc's capacity with loads of redundant data to avoid five minute loading times or installing integral files onto the HDD to play it like a PC game. The only thing the PS3 and its Blu-Ray has shown us is that if it has any say in Console Gaming's future then Console Gaming is no longer Console Gaming.

You were fine with the PS2's humble limitations last generation so I see no reason to make the PS3's excess out to be a necessity for this one.



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finalsquall said:
*~Onna76~* said:
GD it, I'm really getting sick and tired of this forum and it's constant flaming! They'd better call this website VGwarchartz. Putting up a chart of who flames the best, sjeez!!

 Sorry M'i lady *bows head* I shall stop and admit that I was wrong and the Wii is king of all consoles. This shall bring an end to the flamming arguments over nothingness. I will thus become a Wii fan Boy! I Now Serve KING MARIO! :P


First of all, read my profile in where it says I support both! Second of all I wasn't only talking to you but to the entire flaming committee, PS3 as well WII fanboys!!



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*~Onna76~* said:
finalsquall said:
*~Onna76~* said:
GD it, I'm really getting sick and tired of this forum and it's constant flaming! They'd better call this website VGwarchartz. Putting up a chart of who flames the best, sjeez!!

Sorry M'i lady *bows head* I shall stop and admit that I was wrong and the Wii is king of all consoles. This shall bring an end to the flamming arguments over nothingness. I will thus become a Wii fan Boy! I Now Serve KING MARIO! :P


First of all, read my profile in where it says I support both! Second of all I wasn't only talking to you but to the entire flaming committee.


Ouch, I just got burnt! Doh! :P

 

Ps. did you edit beacuse I saw First of All you idiot! :O  anyways Chivalery never works DOH! 



  Unleash The Beast!  

End of 2011 Sales: Wii = 90mil, 360 = 61mil, PS3= 60mil

Soriku said:
I never fail to notice that every thread has a "Black Sheep" and in this thread's case it's finalsquall =/

That's ok, cause I always thought you were a shit stirrer and your post were always against the ps3. We r bound to hits heads. Lets just leave it as you like the wii and you think it will win and I like the ps3 and know it will win :D There we go we can be pals! or Both be black sheep :P

 

ALL hail Lord Mario! Wii ftw :D



  Unleash The Beast!  

End of 2011 Sales: Wii = 90mil, 360 = 61mil, PS3= 60mil

Lafiel said:
@ WiteoutKing )

I can verify this - the people interested in games at the university I go to all are Wii-owners aswell and so are some of my friends. As always I'm the black sheep with the PS3 , but I don't care for I'm as happy with my console as they are with theirs and it's all good.

 Hear hear, that is what's most important of all.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007