Bugrimmar, stop trolling.

Everyone else, stop saying things that aren't true. Mario Party 8 is the worst in the series, not the best.

Me, get a sandwich!

Certainly Mario Galaxy vies for supremacy with Mario 64, but Metroid Prime 3 was too focused on the shooting. It certainly had large areas to explore, but the fact that they weren't intricately interconnected really made it feel lacking. Twilight Princess missed that Zelda charm, but was certainly the biggest show yet for overworld and dungeons. Brawl was definitely superior in its franchise, as was Mario Kart, simply through the abundance of features

I agree with this. Nintendo has improved in some areas and gone back in others. No, Nintendo's first party titles remain the quality they always have, but the absence of games using that talent this Christmas was disappointing.

I would say that the quality has gone up since last gen. Since, I had the Cube as my main console before and have played all of the Nintendo titles from that system and the Wii, the Wii wins out by a small margin. On a game-by-game level:

Galaxy= better than Sunshine and Mario 64

Super Paper Mario= Not better than TTYD, but it is a different genre so it's not really a fair comparison.

Mario Party 8 = Not the best, not the worst.

Brawl = Bigger than Melee, a much better single player experience and it has Online(bad or not).

On the comment about shovelware, I think some people miss the true definition of the term. The metaphor implies that the creators showed little care for the original software, as if the new compilation or version had been indiscriminately created/ported with a shovel, without any care shown for the condition of the software on the newly created product.

I don't remember Nintendo ever making shovelware, just because a game is not good dosen't make it shovelware. Anyone remember Geist.

unfortunately for you americans you didnt get diaster. i enjoyed it just as much as i enjoyed metroid prime 3(my faveorite of the series) plus the theme song is awesome

As somebody who's been playing games since the NES and still plays games on NES and DOS as well as new games, I call bullshit on this one.  Also, your prediction of the future is based on what?  You don't like some new Nintendo games, so you predict that you will not like some more new Nintendo games?  I don't see how that translates to Nintendo forgetting their fans in the future.  Nintendo knows how they got where they are, and they're still making games in all their greatest franchises and all their greatest genres, but still have time to create new franchises AND new genres.

Maybe the majority of Wii owners have jobs and families and don't have a spare 5 hours per day.  That doesn't make the games they play less fun.

In the future you will be banned.  I can see the quality of your posts decreasing over time as you forget how to actually respond to threads and posts and just start rambling and trolling nonsense AS TIME GOES BY.

What Nintendo games are low budget?

And how does low budget equal poor quality?  Maybe it does in the hands of EA or Ubisoft, but not in the hands of Nintendo or indie developers.  World of Goo was made by a 2-man team and is one of the highest rated Wii games of the year.  Some of my favorite NES games have 5 names in the credits.  One of my favorite DOS games (with ASCII graphics) was made by one person, alone, with NO budget, and improved for 10 or so years.  It has more depth than the vast majority of new games on any system.

Here, let me try:

Majority of PS2 owners bought it for casual surface level enjoyment of casual games like GTA and Guitar Hero.

Majority of PS3 owners bought it for Blu-Ray movies and you can tell because the game attach rate is so low.  They buy one or 2 games with the console and then start buying movies instead.  Or they buy PS3 just for LBP and Home and nothing else.

Majority of 360 owners bought it for shooters and they can't sell any non-shooters.  They buy shooters because they are the most casual "pick up and play" genre in existence.  You just point, shoot, and call strangers naughty words on the internet.

Majority of DS owners bought it for Brain Training and Nintendogs, and it has no core games.  If you want core games you need to buy a PSP, which has all the true core game support.

In the future, all of these will stop selling, not because they have been replaced by new consoles or anything, but because they are all pathetic fads and all their bubbles will burst at around the same time, which will coincidentally be when the next generation starts.  But it's really because they all suck like the Wii.