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| Simulacrum said: http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com/kauppa/product_info.php?products_id=27086 Still the same. |
so this is happening in others too... just crazy...
End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)
Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases
360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak
PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut
axumblade said:
This is true. My store had a TON of copies of the PS3 and 360 one but the Wii one we had a little less. So it makes sense.
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it could be a 9-1 ratio 360 to Wii and assuming the 360 sold out too the Wiis sale would have been higher this week.
However, from what I have seen the and from what workers have told me it is more like 5-1 360 to Wii and 3-1 PS3 to Wii
End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)
Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases
360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak
PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut
I'm getting sick of threads like this. We have real retailer data, you do not, so quit assuming our data is always wrong just because it doesn't fit whatever fantasy you want to believe in this week. Sales are low because supply is low, and supply is low because retailers aren't re-ordering more stock, or are ordering tiny quantities. Activision can't force retailers to buy more copies no matter how much they advertise. ;>
| DKII said: I'm getting sick of threads like this. We have real retailer data, you do not, so quit assuming our data is always wrong just because it doesn't fit whatever fantasy you want to believe in this week. Sales are low because supply is low, and supply is low because retailers aren't re-ordering more stock, or are ordering tiny quantities. Activision can't force retailers to buy more copies no matter how much they advertise. ;> |
its not like even NDP is always right...
And yes, this site is great, but for whatever reasons CODwaw sales dont makes sense. No one is say it had massive stock, but but it has a very high sellthough rate from the anecdotal data we have shared. No one is saying it is already at like 800k or something. I think maybe it is off a good bit in NA...
Also the supply is low theory is true to an extent. Ya there is no where near as much supply as for the HD consoles. But really. Why would they spend so much money marketing a products that is not on the shelves.
If I am wrong when fiscal are released so be it, I just have a hunch... the same type of hunch I have in Nov that Wii HW sales were low, Numbers just did not line up exactly with what I was seeing in my own anecdotes and the anecdotes of others.
End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)
Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases
360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak
PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut
Anecdotes are beyond useless, marketing gets consumers to buy games and not retailers, and NPD is a lot more right than you think. Again, stop selectively doubting numbers that don't fit in with what you want to happen. Wait for financial reports if you like, but quit making threads about how this site must be wrong 'cause your local area is sold out of a game that isn't ordering new copies because it didn't sell that well to begin with and there's dozens of other Wii games they'd rather stock instead.
| DKII said: Anecdotes are beyond useless, marketing gets consumers to buy games and not retailers, and NPD is a lot more right than you think. Again, stop selectively doubting numbers that don't fit in with what you want to happen. Wait for financial reports if you like, but quit making threads about how this site must be wrong 'cause your local area is sold out of a game that isn't ordering new copies because it didn't sell that well to begin with and there's dozens of other Wii games they'd rather stock instead. |
the fact that they didn't advertise the wii version alone at first then started to put out tons of adverts isn't anecdotal, and yea it's possible they started doing it in spite of retailers refusal to buy it, but i think it makes much more sense that retailers started ordering more copies and that resulted in more commercials. Why advertise a game that retailers aren't ordering?
Seems like a reasonable reason to bring some doubt into the equation. I'm not saying the numbers are wrong, i'm saying it's sound reasoning.
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They could advertise a game for lots of reasons. Could be Nintendo offered matching advertising dollars. I seem a lot of wii games advertised lately, not just COD WAW.
I doubt that it was because it started selling more. It basic economics that you advertise to increase selling, not because it is already selling. If something doesn't sell on it's own you advertise, if that doesn't work you lower prices.
It takes time for marketing campaigns. Maybe they decided to advertise because the reviews came in decent (in the 80s), and figured advertising would be more effective.
Or maybe, 250k WW is decent sales for a game that barely cost anything extra to make and lacks most of the features of other versions, shares advertising with 27 different versions of the same game, and on a system that is not known for FPS or online game-play.
I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.
| DKII said: Anecdotes are beyond useless, marketing gets consumers to buy games and not retailers, and NPD is a lot more right than you think. Again, stop selectively doubting numbers that don't fit in with what you want to happen. Wait for financial reports if you like, but quit making threads about how this site must be wrong 'cause your local area is sold out of a game that isn't ordering new copies because it didn't sell that well to begin with and there's dozens of other Wii games they'd rather stock instead. |
I really dont think that is always the case. If someone said that they went to 5 stores in there area and they lived in a somewhat major urban area and they were all stock with the Wii for several days, that would be a pretty telling anecdote (if they were telling the truth of course)
Seeing a crap load of commericials, and then seeing the game being sold out in my area despite steady (albeit maybe smaller) shipment, and then seeing last weeks number at 25k has nothing to do with me "wishing" a game does well. I bought the PS3 version for petes sake. 25k is too low of a number compared to other numbers for this to be true... like this. There are like over 5,000 gs stores okay if each one ony had 3 fricken copies and they are sold out that is 15k.... Again for example a GS in my mall had 9 (they had about 30 of each hd in the same shipment) copies, not a ton, but enough to make good sales if they sellout which they did... Also, I would think GS would sell less % wise of the Wii version as anyone else, a good portion of the shoppers there have an HD console... Places like TRU, BB, Target, and Walmart are the places where the Wii would preform better.
End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)
Wii- 72 million 3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases
360- 37 million Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak
PS3- 29 million Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut