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vdoesntforgive on 24 December 2008
Onyxmeth said:
sc94597 said:
@Onyxmeth I liked the original, and especially liked Ring of Fates. While the original wouldn't be in my top ten GC games it would definitely be in my top 20. I'm hyped for Chystal Bearers not only because I'm a fan of the series, but because the trailer(not all CG, there was a few seconds of gameplay) showed that it isn't low budget like the other two were. Now if I liked a game that was pretty much a side note and low budget, I would probably like a game with a much higher budget and what seems to be alot more work put into it. From what we saw of the gameplay, which was very little, the battle system looks much much much faster paced than that of Crystal Chronicles. The game also is said to be a single player focused game opposed to the multilayer focus of the other two games, which I prefer. Basically I think the hype is produced in a similar manner that the hype for the XIII games. The game just expresses a high budget and flashy visuals to produce most of the hype. I personally am hyped because of a mixture of me liking the previous games, and the trailer appealing to me as a game that will probably be good. I do think that there will be more reasons to justify the hype when we are closer to release though. As for now we know very very little about the game.

Ok. In a way you explained it perfectly and then raised many more questions. I guess it's just the Wii fans getting stuck in the same hype mentality fans of the other two console have, which is hyping the CG. I guess I just feel that a lot of GC gamers would have this in their top 20 or 30 just like you but are hyping the new one like a top 10 release.

This may stem from my own standings on hype though. I'm typically someone that waits for in-game pics, hands-on reports, developer interviews and gameplay videos before I get behind the hype of a game, unless it's the sequel to something I have played, and then I'll give the early hype at the same level of interest I have in the original, meaning a top 20 game will get top 20 hype until the developers start opening the floodgates with info.

I hope you at least partially understand where I'm coming from that this game is getting what seems to be an unusual amount of hype for something with so little info and with such a second tier status in gaming terms.

 

 

 

That's not it at all.

For one, the trailer doesn't have any of that pre-rendered hype bullshit slapped into it (someone said it had a few seconds of gameplay, but the whole trailer is realtime). There has been developer interviews explaining a lot about the basic story of the game, and the direction they're taking the gameplay into, and how much effort is being put into it as opposed to previous CC games.

It isn't just hollow hype, the game does actually look and sound  good.

That's why people like me (who have been following the progress of the game) are excited about this game. It's not like people who think vXIII is the second coming of Jesus Christ. We've actually seen something in this case to look forward to.



 

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LordTheNightKnight on 24 December 2008
sc94597 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
sc94597: "Mana(research it, if you don't believe it originated from final fantasy)"

It didn't. The localized version of the first name had FF slapped on to add familiarity.

It was also marketed as a Final Fantasy game. As for the name being slapped on, couldn't you say that for most games that originate from final fantasy? They don't really have anything to do with the main series. Also the Japanese name had final fantasy in it too. Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden

 

 

If the name was slapped on, it was still slapped on. Seiken Densetsu was meant to be its own game at first. See the development section in its wikipedia page (which has a citation link). Crystal Chronicles was meant to be an FF game (just as a side story) from the beginning.



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Lolcislaw on 24 December 2008

Well im getting both titles although i've never played a DQ game before. Maybe ill get one for my DS before.



sc94597 on 24 December 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
sc94597 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
sc94597: "Mana(research it, if you don't believe it originated from final fantasy)"

It didn't. The localized version of the first name had FF slapped on to add familiarity.

It was also marketed as a Final Fantasy game. As for the name being slapped on, couldn't you say that for most games that originate from final fantasy? They don't really have anything to do with the main series. Also the Japanese name had final fantasy in it too. Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden

 

 

If the name was slapped on, it was still slapped on. Seiken Densetsu was meant to be its own game at first. See the development section in its wikipedia page (which has a citation link). Crystal Chronicles was meant to be an FF game (just as a side story) from the beginning.

According to Wikipedia Seiken Densetsu is also a side story, and was fully intended a spinoff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana_(series)

The series began as a handheld side story to Square's flagship franchise Final Fantasy, although most Final Fantasy-inspired elements were subsequently dropped, starting with the second installment, Secret of Mana.

The first game of the Mana series was marketed in Japan and the United States as a Final Fantasy game and drew many stylistic influences from the Final Fantasy series, but deviated in that it presented real-time, action-oriented battles comparable to The Legend of Zelda, rather than traditional turn-based battles.[

Um? So it was intended as a side story/spinoff.



LordTheNightKnight on 24 December 2008
sc94597 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
sc94597 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
sc94597: "Mana(research it, if you don't believe it originated from final fantasy)"

It didn't. The localized version of the first name had FF slapped on to add familiarity.

It was also marketed as a Final Fantasy game. As for the name being slapped on, couldn't you say that for most games that originate from final fantasy? They don't really have anything to do with the main series. Also the Japanese name had final fantasy in it too. Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden

 

 

If the name was slapped on, it was still slapped on. Seiken Densetsu was meant to be its own game at first. See the development section in its wikipedia page (which has a citation link). Crystal Chronicles was meant to be an FF game (just as a side story) from the beginning.

According to Wikipedia Seiken Densetsu is also a side story, and was fully intended a spinoff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mana_(series)

The series began as a handheld side story to Square's flagship franchise Final Fantasy, although most Final Fantasy-inspired elements were subsequently dropped, starting with the second installment, Secret of Mana.

The first game of the Mana series was marketed in Japan and the United States as a Final Fantasy game and drew many stylistic influences from the Final Fantasy series, but deviated in that it presented real-time, action-oriented battles comparable to The Legend of Zelda, rather than traditional turn-based battles.[

Um? So it was intended as a side story/spinoff.

 

You just read the first paragraph. That is not where I told you to look.



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vdoesntforgive on 24 December 2008

Does it really matter though, Lord? It still says it.



 

LordTheNightKnight on 24 December 2008
vdoesntforgive said:
Does it really matter though, Lord? It still says it.

 

It does. Look at the development section of that page.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight on 24 December 2008

Let me clarify. sc claimed the Mana series originated from Final Fantasy. The development page states that it was its own project that was set aside in favor of finishing the first FF game. Then when the SD project was restarted, then it was decided to make it a spinoff to sell it better.

So even though it was released as an FF spinoff, its origins were not as one.

I'll even look up CC's development just to see if that's the same or different.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

ClaudeLv250 on 24 December 2008

Mana is not and never was a Final Fantasy spinoff. It started off as Gemma Knights, was renamed Seiken Densetsu, then they slapped FF onto the title sometime before release to increase sales. This is completely different from Crystal Chronicles which started off, and continues to be, a FF spinoff with a lot of FF elements in it. By the time SD2 rolled around they stopped pushing FF onto the title because there was no point; it proved itself to be a viable franchise and from the very beginning it established itself as a game with its own unique elements completely separate from FF.



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sc94597 on 24 December 2008
LordTheNightKnight said:
Let me clarify. sc claimed the Mana series originated from Final Fantasy. The development page states that it was its own project that was set aside in favor of finishing the first FF game. Then when the SD project was restarted, then it was decided to make it a spinoff to sell it better.

So even though it was released as an FF spinoff, its origins were not as one.

I'll even look up CC's development just to see if that's the same or different.

Actually it says in that wikipedia page that the SD:FG was unrelated to that project. I think Claude got it right though.