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1080p means 1080 lines progressively scanned, 1280 x 1080 (or 1440 x 1080 , etc) is also a very high resolution despite not being FullHD.

IMO on a small to average sized TV 768 progressively scanned lines is plenty unless you have eagle eyes.

I would like to mention Super Stardust HD, a very impressive 1080p, 60 FPS game!



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MikeB said:
1080p means 1080 lines progressively scanned, 1280 x 1080 (or 1440 x 1080 , etc) is also a very high resolution despite not being FullHD.

IMO on a small to average sized TV 768 progressively scanned lines is plenty unless you have eagle eyes.

I would like to mention Super Stardust HD, a very impressive 1080p, 60 FPS game!

Really?  It doesn't look like that on my tv.   I'll have to check.

Edit:  I just checked, and it looks like it uses a similar trick to what Ninja Gaiden Sigma or the GT5 demo thing uses (1080 lines high, but not 1920 across).  On my display from a distance it comes across as a slightly more crisp 720p if I don't look up close.  Still a great looking game though.

Also, as HappySquirrel says below, 1080p must be 1920x1080.  "Full HD" is just marketing speak for 1080p.  Some people have been misinformed into thinking that anything with 1080 lines vertical is 1080p, while 1920x1080 is "Full HD 1080p" ..which isn't the case.

Does resolution REALLY matter though?   It's more like a bonus.  Hell, I'd rather play ancient low-res games like X-Com or more recent SD games like Okami than a lot of the new stuff that comes out these days...



MikeB said:
1080p means 1080 lines progressively scanned, 1280 x 1080 (or 1440 x 1080 , etc) is also a very high resolution despite not being FullHD.

IMO on a small to average sized TV 768 progressively scanned lines is plenty unless you have eagle eyes.

I would like to mention Super Stardust HD, a very impressive 1080p, 60 FPS game!

 

No, 1080p is a well defined standard that refers to a resolution of 1920x1080 ...

Just because you're displaying a progressive scan image with 1080 lines of resolution does not mean that you're displaying 1080p; much like if someone decided to display an image at 440x720 on the Wii would not mean that the Wii was displaying a 720p image.



sami_630 said:

Wipeout HD on PS3. (1080p @ 60fps)

But isn't that online in single player?

 



 

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@ HappySqurriel

No, 1080p is a well defined standard that refers to a resolution of 1920x1080 ...


The term means nothing more than what is included in the name. Same as with 480p, 480i, 1080i, etc.



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@ epsilon72

Edit: I just checked, and it looks like it uses a similar trick to what Ninja Gaiden Sigma or the GT5 demo thing uses (1080 lines high, but not 1920 across). On my display from a distance it comes across as a slightly more crisp 720p if I don't look up close. Still a great looking game though.


It's not a special trick, Super Stardust HD renders in 1440 x 1080 and is scaled for fitting a FullHD display.

Also, as HappySquirrel says below, 1080p must be 1920x1080. "Full HD" is just marketing speak for 1080p. Some people have been misinformed into thinking that anything with 1080 lines vertical is 1080p, while 1920x1080 is "Full HD 1080p" ..which isn't the case.


I was referring to 1080p, not the FullHD 1080p standard.

For example:

1080p High Definition Multimedia Digital Camcorder (DV-1080hd)

"5.) 1440 x 1080 (1080P) HD high definition video resolution up to 30fps

6.) 1280 x 720 (720P) @60fps can capture high speed motion precisely"

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11893869/1080p_High_Definition_Multimedia_Digital_Camcorder_DV_1080hd_.html

Nothing to become upset about though, like for example Happy Squirrel got upset about this fact in the past....



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MikeB said:
@ HappySqurriel

No, 1080p is a well defined standard that refers to a resolution of 1920x1080 ...


The term means nothing more than what is included in the name. Same as with 480p, 480i, 1080i, etc.

 

No!

480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p are all well defined standards that (IIRC) are controlled by the FCC.



HappySqurriel said:
MikeB said:
@ HappySqurriel

No, 1080p is a well defined standard that refers to a resolution of 1920x1080 ...


The term means nothing more than what is included in the name. Same as with 480p, 480i, 1080i, etc.

 

No!

480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p are all well defined standards that (IIRC) are controlled by the FCC.

 

The "HDV 1080i" video standard for instance records in 1440 x 1080 interlaced (not 1920 x 1080 interlaced). 1080i is just a shorthand name.

It's really not that big of an issue....

 



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MikeB said:
1080p means 1080 lines progressively scanned, 1280 x 1080 (or 1440 x 1080 , etc) is also a very high resolution despite not being FullHD.

IMO on a small to average sized TV 768 progressively scanned lines is plenty unless you have eagle eyes.

I would like to mention Super Stardust HD, a very impressive 1080p, 60 FPS game!

 

 No, you are wrong although not technically. In sentiment and practice you are very wrong.

Sure 1080p just means 1080 pixels wide progressive signal...So of course that could be 1x1080 = 1080p.

But when we talk in the context of "HD", we are always referring to 1920x1080p = THE standard for "High Defenition".

Although what you say IS true, it has no place here.

When smeone wants to know if a game is "1080p" they mean is the signal output to the display device at 1920x1080. They DON'T mean is it output at 1440x1080.

(did you not know this?)



HappySqurriel said:
MikeB said:
1080p means 1080 lines progressively scanned, 1280 x 1080 (or 1440 x 1080 , etc) is also a very high resolution despite not being FullHD.

IMO on a small to average sized TV 768 progressively scanned lines is plenty unless you have eagle eyes.

I would like to mention Super Stardust HD, a very impressive 1080p, 60 FPS game!

 

No, 1080p is a well defined standard that refers to a resolution of 1920x1080 ...

Just because you're displaying a progressive scan image with 1080 lines of resolution does not mean that you're displaying 1080p; much like if someone decided to display an image at 440x720 on the Wii would not mean that the Wii was displaying a 720p image.

Actually...He is right about 1080p being ANY progressive signal with any horizontal resolution and 1080 pixels high.

But obviously he's just trying to throw a spanner in the works.

If I were to call MikeB a "douchebag". I would not in my mind think he is one...He is just being rather pedantic and patronising.

However your post is right in the "real world". MikeB knows this, he's just being a troll.