Alright here is my analogy on piracy.. dont mind little details just try to get the point..

Imagine a baker (developer) spending years trying to make a perfect recipe for his bread.. finally he makes his perfect recipe and sells em.. then Jesus comes in and buys one loaf of bread.. now our hypothetical Jesus(uploader to a torrent site or seeder), puts it in a basket then gives it to people and the basket doesnt run out of bread.. which means all the people who followed him got to eat the bread the baker perfected, without paying..

now if you were a bystander or the baker, can you accuse the people who ate the bread, stealing?. can you throw them to jail?.
i am against piracy because i know developers are just trying to make a living, but to me piracy is not considered stealing..

But if our Hypothetical Jesus puts the bread in the basket and sells em......
he needs to get shot..

ps. i think most modders are pirates.. and most modders are found in third world countries.
i remember in the Philippines, consoles sold their are already modded right out of the box..

Yeah, Nintendo seems to be really hating Europe... Elite Beat Agents appeared in stores 8 months after release in US... Thanks god DS doesn't have troubles with regions

You dastardly knave! Don't go seeking forgiveness now, the long arm of the law will root out your villainous kind!

On a serious note, region limitations are the best reason to mod, ever. Personally, I wouldn't want to risk damaging my box, but if a devastatingly awesome title was released overseas with no prospective NA release, I might consider it.

Yeah, these guys want people to believe pirating software is wonderful and nobody suffers, but eventually a price always has to be paid. Keep pirating PC games, and watch as the PC market disappears slowly into the night, and awesome video cards stop getting made because there aren't any games that need them.

Why do you think id software went to consoles? To supplement it's PC income? Or to slowly switch to consoles exclusively?

And to those of you pissed off that your freeloader doesn't work: Haha, suckers! Nintendo gotcha!

Me too. If I can find someone who can solder I will buy it. A Cyclowiz V2 is the best right now. Much better for us PAL users since all NTSC games are compatible unlike WiiKey's really really small list of compatible NTSC titles.

I would say its more blockbusters fault and stores like ebgames, plus blockbuster has that no late fee thing going on so i can rent a game for about a month before i return it with no extra charge, the same with those online sites.

 I don´t know where you get your info Androo but it´s impossible to play a NTSC game on a Cyclowiz that doesn´t run on a Wiikey, its not a matter of the chip code but of the way the game was programed. If you have evidence that shows otherwhise please share it.

And yes I have a Wiikey... does this mean I don´t buy any games ??? I bought about 90% of all Zeld titles ever made including TP, I have every Mario Kart and that won´t change, Galaxy is going to get bought as well, I just don´t like waiting for ever till a game arrives, some don´t even come out here ever, thats BS, I´m just as american as everyone living in the U.S., do you guys know what a horror some translations are ??? it killes me, and yes I´ve downloaded games... like Spiderman 3 and Transformers... did I make tham fail or where they crap from the beggining??? Did the movie the Hulk fail because of downloads or would people have gone to the movie if it actually was any good ???

I made this industry big, now I have the right to destroy it ......JK   :)

Some people will pirate anything no matter what but most people pay......for quality.

http://www.techwizad.com/

Go to Cyclo Wiz V2 details. Let me give you a little extract [btw Cyclo Wiz is another mod chip apart from WiiKey]:

Features of Cyclo Wiz:

Quicksolder – No wires, very easy to install

Direct boot of PAL Wii imports on NTSC consoles - no patch needed
Direct boot of PAL Wii imports on PAL consoles - no patch needed

Direct boot of NTSC Wii imports on NTSC consoles - no patch needed
Direct boot of NTSC Wii imports on PAL consoles - no patch needed

Direct boot of Wii backups
Runs imported GC games

Direct boot of GC backups & Homebrew

Direct boot of homebrew in GC mode

Compatible with Multi-Disc games
Perfect compatibility - 100% of games are working
Compatible with DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW and DVD+RW no bitsetting required

Fully upgradeable via DVD
Build-in audio fix (no patch required)

********

WiiKey Features:

Well "partial" as you can see in the WiiKey features means: barely anything. My friend has it and not even a first gen game [twilight princess NTSC] worked on his PAL Wii!!!! The other features of both mod chips are more or less the same but for PAL Wii owners Cyclo Wiz is the way to go as anyone with a brain can see.

Here's a vid on how to install it: http://forums.modariffic.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=17&sid=da1a15de22f7eeb315d561eb7e2d0cbb

*********

See? how does it need the WiiKey if it is a standalone mod chip??

Ok androo, sorry but I know a little something about Modchips, I´m no expert (but I´ve talked to many) I know BS when I see it, first of, I know the Cyclowiz is a standalone modchip, but it does the same as the Wiikey, it only mods the drive nothing else, so they can do 100% the same when it comes to playing backups and imports. Second, don´t post instructions of how to mod a console here, nobody will be happy about that.

And now for the big three:) Please Androo go to the official site of the Cyclowiz: http://www.cyclopswiz.com/

you will find a chart that was made to show how much better the Cyclowiz is compared the Wiikey(sacasm), and eventhough it leaves out some features the Wiikey has that the Cyclowiz lacks you will see that under: "Runs Wii imporst" it says PARTIALLY for all of them.

So check your facts my friend. The Wiikey and the Cyclowiz do the same stuff with only differences in the extras, the NTSC import can only be partially fixed with software, for full NTSC support you´ll need a real modchip not a drive modchip. And its about 60%-80% that work, FOR ALL CHIPS, and thats the way it will stay untill a real modchip sees the light of day.

I don´t want to get cranky here but I don´t like it when people put down stuff without knowing even half the facts, I assume stuff alot myself but when I check my facts and see I was wrong I´ll eat my crow without hesitation. I don´t know where you get your info but if I where you I´d have a serious talk with them.

Thanks ED!! Sorry for being such a nOOb and yes I ate my crow without hesitation lol.

Anyway do you have any idea where can I get a 100% compatible chip?