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LordTheNightKnight said:
"im sensing that no one likes my decision to go with sony on this one"

Wrong. It's that your reason is BS. If it was just because you preferred it on there, that would be okay.

 

 hahaha doesnt my reason kind of say "I would prefer to play it on ps3"? :p lol



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SnowWhitesDrug said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"im sensing that no one likes my decision to go with sony on this one"

Wrong. It's that your reason is BS. If it was just because you preferred it on there, that would be okay.

 

 hahaha doesnt my reason kind of say "I would prefer to play it on ps3"? :p lol

 

No, it didn't. It was claiming a third party game was like a first party game. That factual innaccuracy got you those replies.



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forevercloud3000 said:
FaRmLaNd said:
If FF13 was exclusive to the ps3 I and millions of other 360 only owners wouldn't get to play. That is why its multi-platform.

 

No, you , and millions of other 360 owners would have bought PS3s, one way or another. Dont pull that crap. If you are a fan of the series you WERE goingto buy a PS3, until the MP thing, no use denying it. Yea  its exspensive, but you would have found a way to get it just how you got your 360. It really is not that hard to figure out.

PS2 took up an estimated 80% of the userbase last gen. It was cheaper then Xbox was. FF games of late on average sell about 5million. Do you really think that if it was multiplat then that another 5million people were going to miraculously appear as fans on the XBOX for it. NO. USerbase does not equal sales unless your taget audience is included. If XIII is good its good, it will sell 5mill+, but it would have been just the same if it was on PS3. Maybe 10% less at the most. Is that 10% worth shelling out man power to work on an adjacent title so it can "widen userbase"?

The whole MP equals Sales logic is flawed....

 

Man, what delusion. If what you claimed was true, there would be no need to put the game on the 360. The sales would be assured. But S-E doesn't rely on fanboys like you, so they put it on two systems to increase sales.

And claiming multiplatform doesn't equal sales? You fail. You obviously have not been paying attention to this site.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
SnowWhitesDrug said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"im sensing that no one likes my decision to go with sony on this one"

Wrong. It's that your reason is BS. If it was just because you preferred it on there, that would be okay.

 

 hahaha doesnt my reason kind of say "I would prefer to play it on ps3"? :p lol

 

No, it didn't. It was claiming a third party game was like a first party game. That factual innaccuracy got you those replies.

I never claimed that and i apologise to thoes who thought thats what I meant. I was refering to games Im used to being on one console now being on another. When I said it I didnt think about mario being a first party game, I just thought "whats a game thats allways on a nintendo system" and mario came to mind. If you payed any attention to my further explanation of what I meant in my later posts you would see the errors in what your saying now mr knight. In the future I will try not to cross lines like that again and hopefully avoide other confusions.

 



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"I just thought "whats a game thats allways on a nintendo system" and mario came to mind"

The thing is that Final Fantasy hasn't always been on any one system, so your statement just seemed wrong, no matter how sentimental.

The thing is that feelings and opinions can still be wrong if they are based on incorrect data. Final Fantasy is a third party game, so even if you felt it would be the same as Mario, that feeling is based on ignorance.

Trust me, you don't get a pass for ignorance, especially on the web.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

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LordTheNightKnight said:
forevercloud3000 said:
FaRmLaNd said:
If FF13 was exclusive to the ps3 I and millions of other 360 only owners wouldn't get to play. That is why its multi-platform.

 

No, you , and millions of other 360 owners would have bought PS3s, one way or another. Dont pull that crap. If you are a fan of the series you WERE goingto buy a PS3, until the MP thing, no use denying it. Yea  its exspensive, but you would have found a way to get it just how you got your 360. It really is not that hard to figure out.

PS2 took up an estimated 80% of the userbase last gen. It was cheaper then Xbox was. FF games of late on average sell about 5million. Do you really think that if it was multiplat then that another 5million people were going to miraculously appear as fans on the XBOX for it. NO. USerbase does not equal sales unless your taget audience is included. If XIII is good its good, it will sell 5mill+, but it would have been just the same if it was on PS3. Maybe 10% less at the most. Is that 10% worth shelling out man power to work on an adjacent title so it can "widen userbase"?

The whole MP equals Sales logic is flawed....

 

Man, what delusion. If what you claimed was true, there would be no need to put the game on the 360. The sales would be assured. But S-E doesn't rely on fanboys like you, so they put it on two systems to increase sales.

I love it when people try to denounce my claim yet have no real argument. how about you give some concrete reasoning for a MP game selling better then an exclusive one and we will talk.

Halo 3, an exclusive game for 360 that has out sold majority of MP games this gen(8.6 million). It was only barely out sold by COD4 which is somewhere around 10-11million(PS3+360). That is less then either systems entire userbases seperate.

GTAIV was also around 11million.  GTAIII sold 11.6 million while still exclusive to PS2 alone.

DMC4 sold almost 2.5 million. DMC 1 sold 2.77million as a PS2 exclusive.

Ok, Now lets tally up. What are the most successful Games?

Halo3(8mill)

Gran Turismo 3 A Spec (14mill)

Final Fantasy VII10-11mill)

Gears of War (5.5mil)

New Super Mario Bros. (16mill)

Mario Kart Wii(11mil)

Crash Bandicoot 2 (7.5mil)

Jak and Daxter(3.5mil)

Metal Gear Solid (5.6mill)

Pokemon Red/Green/Blue (31mill)

God of War (3.2mil)

Kingdom Hearts (5.5mill)

WOW would you look at that. Majority of the best known and best selling franchise leaders are all exclusive titles. Who would have thunk it?

Now lets got to the Top 5 selling franchises of all time!

  1. Mario
  2. Pokemon
  3. The Sims
  4. Final Fantasy
  5. Need For Speed

3/5 are exclusive franchises to a console or another (except FF of late but they do nto factor into statistics)

What does this Prove?

That making a game Multiplat does not equal better sales.

Now What Have we learned?



      

      

      

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"I love it when people try to denounce my claim yet have no real argument. how about you give some concrete reasoning for a MP game selling better then an exclusive one and we will talk."

Liar. You don't "love" it. You just selectively look at sales of certain games while ignoring others, and refuse to look at all factors in the sales.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Son You are aware there's more square-Enix Games for SONY than MS Right? im too lazy too make a list right now...



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I dont want to be fanboy anymore...Why? it takes to much work but i will call on ppl on there B.S!!!:)

LordTheNightKnight said:
"I love it when people try to denounce my claim yet have no real argument. how about you give some concrete reasoning for a MP game selling better then an exclusive one and we will talk."

Liar. You don't "love" it. You just selectively look at sales of certain games while ignoring others, and refuse to look at all factors in the sales.

 

You missed the two main points.



      

      

      

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LordTheNightKnight said:
"I just thought "whats a game thats allways on a nintendo system" and mario came to mind"

The thing is that Final Fantasy hasn't always been on any one system, so your statement just seemed wrong, no matter how sentimental.

The thing is that feelings and opinions can still be wrong if they are based on incorrect data. Final Fantasy is a third party game, so even if you felt it would be the same as Mario, that feeling is based on ignorance.

Trust me, you don't get a pass for ignorance, especially on the web.

 

 lol the funny thing is you talk about ignorance while being completly ignorant to what im trying to say, so lets just forget about it, I'll let you win what ever it is your trying to win/prove because your completly off my point. Have a nice night, or day :)



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