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Disney likes Sony, but they like making money more, and for Disney of all companies, there is a lot more money to be had on the Wii than on any other system. Disney knows this, thus the whispers of KH3/Wii.

I find it hilarious that Sony fanboys are so adamant about third parties being "loyal to Sony." The entire PlayStation empire was built on third parties doing what was, by these fanboys' own standards, "betraying" one console vendor for another, all for the sake of some extra marketing dollars. What makes them think that the third parties wouldn't do the exact same thing again?



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Millennium said:
Disney is known to want KH3/Wii, and what Disney wants, Disney gets. But DQX does mean that Square-Enix is less likely to try and stonewall or otherwise rebel against that: they're finally willing to take some real brand risks on the Wii. Let the series move forward, I say: bring it to the Wii and don't look back.

Would you mind sourcing this, please?



Yes, i would also like to see where Disney has stated the like of sony and or wii.



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clapfaddle said:
zleep said:
I hope the series gets cancelled so this stupid fanboy crap ends and everyone involved in it cries. I'll be very happy.

 

given Square-Enix's utter inability to create new worthwhile franchises

 

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Kingdom Hearts 3 going to the PS3 seems very unlikely now?

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-246538.aspx?CT=1



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"Btw, you can retract your "try again" statement any time up there, since the data shows I don't need to."

You liar. It does not.

 

You're seriously going to argue that the numbers above don't show that the PS2 was in a hugely dominate position? It was way ahead in all regions and selling more every month by 50% to 150% if you combine GC and Xbox. You are really going to argue that the Wii is in the same position? The market shares are completely different and the Wii isn't enjoying the same monthly dominance that the PS2 was then.

The fact that you can't read charts is very disturbing.



@ Windbane Don't you mean "The World Ends With You"?


Also, ask yourself why SE decided to put KH on the PS2 in the first place. It was because it was the most popular system. If they really cared about graphics they would have put it on the gamecube.



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clapfaddle said:
windbane said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"because the Wii doesn't even have any."

Tales of Symphonia 2, Dragon Quest Swords (side story, but still sold a lot). So if you can't even get that fact right, no wonder you think people care if KH pushes graphics.

 

Hah, touche. I forgot Tales just came out. Solid 66 on metacritic and sold .34 mil. Swords sold .74 mil if you do count that as a JRPG. So, no good JRPGs yet.

That has nothing to do with the fact that people care if KH is in HD. A lot of people do, including myself. Wanting it to be in HD has nothing to do with my main reason it won't be on Wii, either.

Btw, you can retract your "try again" statement any time up there, since the data shows I don't need to.

 

Edit: thanks for that list, Benga Benga. Like I said above, though, western RPGs are doing just fine in HD, and Kingdom Hearts sells like a western RPG because of Disney. I left out Mass Effect above, too.

TOS2 is perhaps the largest divide we've ever seen between gamer opinions and reviewers'. The game was measured by expectations of being a true sequel not that of what it was, a valid and sound expansion of the first game's experience. Namco warned of the games novel nature yet apparently reviewers didn't get the memo. But enough excuses, the game is what it is, and clearly you haven't played it. Even then an argument that hinges on the laughable reviewing community as a standard does bring into question the validity of that argument.

Reviews are something people will rely on when it benefits them and deny when it doesn't, including you too. Thus they're invalid as a point of recourse in dicussion even if we could establish any sort of professional standard held by an industry composed entirely of people with no formal requirements other than that you are the guy hired to review games. This is not the movie industry, this is just a bunch of geeks with their own opinions given a couple hours to play any one game then write the review the editor tells them to write.

Let us also take note of how you avoided the entire post listing the numerous RPGs coming out this next year. Heck, by your logic DQX could have never come out for the Wii. Yet here you stand trying to argue down the sheer weight of all the evidence stacked against you with little more than rhetoric and dodging damning evidence.

The Wii may be the casual no-game alternative in the west, but in Japan, it is the only viable alternative for many developers looking to make eastern focused games.

 

 

Interesting excuses for a poorly reviewed game.  I don't defend Haze.

game reviews are the best objective measure we have.  I find game reviews to be more reliable than movie reviews.  There are far more movies I enjoy that are poorly reviewed than games.

I specifically thanked Benga Benga for his post, so I'm curious why you think I avoided it.  I mentioned all of the HD RPGs that are already out, as well as WKC and FF13 and Versus coming.  Which games are closely to the gameplay and market share of KH?  Western games and Versus.  But whatever, I already talked about that so please go back up and read.  I didn't ignore anything.  KH sells the best in the US and is an action-RPG, not a traditional JRPG.

"heck, by your logic DQX could have never come out for the Wii."  That's a very confusing statement since I PREDICTED it would be on the Wii.  I really think you aren't reading everything I've said.

 



griffinA said:
@ Windbane Don't you mean "The World Ends With You"?


Also, ask yourself why SE decided to put KH on the PS2 in the first place. It was because it sold so much. If they really cared about graphics they would have put it on the gamecube.

 

Hah, yes, thanks. I edited my post now. I always confuse RPGs with James Bond films...

The difference in PS2 and GC is a lot different than the Wii and PS3/360. I am not saying they are the Ninja Gaiden team.



Yes, I'm saying it's going to the 360 now.