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@naum

no, i'm not saying that, what i mean.

 

if sony doing that, MS can also said, that geow2 aready > 5 million sold ,

(sold, or shipped it is different prespective)

but what MS said is reflected with all chartz

but look at sony number, big differences and not reflected on all chart

 

at least because we keep posted on vgchartz, i presume we do believe vgchartz number :)

 

 



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Shipped vs. sold can describe some discrepancies, but not this one. 1 million shipped vs. 250 sold. Sorry, but there is no chance that 750k are in stores vs. 250k in customers hands.

My guess would be about 750k sold with 1 million shipped.



Why do people think this site is so accurate?

I would trust the official word more than any numbers posted here.



1 million shipped is good for that game. Hope they get back development costs.



 
whatever said:
Shipped vs. sold can describe some discrepancies, but not this one. 1 million shipped vs. 250 sold. Sorry, but there is no chance that 750k are in stores vs. 250k in customers hands.

My guess would be about 750k sold with 1 million shipped.

 

Motorstorm 1 sold quite a bit, it's not too much of a stretch that retailers overestimated demand on the sequel. If anyone has the time to do it, check retailers to see if it has been discounted already or not - that'd be an insight into the situation. If it is not discounted, it might indicate VGC has been undertracking it. If it is discounted, it might indicate retailers have excess stock.





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dejelek said:

@naum

no, i'm not saying that, what i mean.

 

if sony doing that, MS can also said, that geow2 aready > 5 million sold ,

(sold, or shipped it is different prespective)

but what MS said is reflected with all chartz

but look at sony number, big differences and not reflected on all chart

 

at least because we keep posted on vgchartz, i presume we do believe vgchartz number :)

 

 

 

 

Exactly. Sony's numbers are hillarious/ Let's make a comparison:

Fable2: Debuted at n.1 in ,almost ,every european chart and in the NPD chart doing 800k.=2 million sold

Motorstorm2: Didn't enter any top-10 in Europe, debuted at n.25 in the U.K (before disappearing quickly) and had a disastrous 1st NPD month (nowhere near the top-10 of course).= 1 million sold

OOOOOOOOOOOOOKAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY



drpunk said:
I'm intrigued. Who would sue?

 

Investors generally sue when companies mislead them. 

Of course he is talking about sold to retail because technically the retailers are Sony/Nintendo/MS's customers.  The sell through to the consumer influences how many units they can sell to the retailers.  As Bitmap Frogs has suggested, the retailers may have overestimated demand for the title.  If that is the case, you will see it discounted quickly.  My unofficial survey of retailers has this game currently selling at full price.  That being said, it is unlikely that there would be 75% of the copies sold to retailer still being held by the retailers.  If it really was that big of a disappointment, I think retailers would have begun discounting the title, similar to what happen to Haze within the first couple of weeks.

It's a slippery slope when you start to question VGC's numbers for some titles and not all titles.  It is very likely that they make mistakes or have some holes in their current coverage, but there is no better data on weekly sales to customers anywhere else on the Internet.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

dbot said:
drpunk said:
I'm intrigued. Who would sue?

 

Investors generally sue when companies mislead them. 

Of course he is talking about sold to retail because technically the retailers are Sony/Nintendo/MS's customers.  The sell through to the consumer influences how many units they can sell to the retailers.  As Bitmap Frogs has suggested, the retailers may have overestimated demand for the title.  If that is the case, you will see it discounted quickly.  My unofficial survey of retailers has this game currently selling at full price.  That being said, it is unlikely that there would be 75% of the copies sold to retailer still being held by the retailers.  If it really was that big of a disappointment, I think retailers would have begun discounting the title, similar to what happen to Haze within the first couple of weeks.

It's a slippery slope when you start to question VGC's numbers for some titles and not all titles.  It is very likely that they make mistakes or have some holes in their current coverage, but there is no better data on weekly sales to customers anywhere else on the Internet.

 

 

No need for speculation, we get weekly european charts and monthly U.S ones. It is quite apparent which games sell and which don't.



fulcizombie said:
dbot said:
drpunk said:
I'm intrigued. Who would sue?

 

Investors generally sue when companies mislead them. 

Of course he is talking about sold to retail because technically the retailers are Sony/Nintendo/MS's customers.  The sell through to the consumer influences how many units they can sell to the retailers.  As Bitmap Frogs has suggested, the retailers may have overestimated demand for the title.  If that is the case, you will see it discounted quickly.  My unofficial survey of retailers has this game currently selling at full price.  That being said, it is unlikely that there would be 75% of the copies sold to retailer still being held by the retailers.  If it really was that big of a disappointment, I think retailers would have begun discounting the title, similar to what happen to Haze within the first couple of weeks.

It's a slippery slope when you start to question VGC's numbers for some titles and not all titles.  It is very likely that they make mistakes or have some holes in their current coverage, but there is no better data on weekly sales to customers anywhere else on the Internet.

 

 

No need for speculation, we get weekly european charts and monthly U.S ones. It is quite apparent which games sell and which don't.

Great.  Can you post the number of units sold to the consumer for this title.  We can just close this thread after you post it.  Thanks again.

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Motorstorm: Pacific Rift has been stabilized at 50k units for the past few weeks. So that's fine considering shipments. I do think 750k sitting on shelves is a lot, but Fallout 3 had millions on shelves after the first week with the huge shipments.