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FishyJoe on 09 December 2008

How many copies of Windows Solitaire ever sold as a standalone product?



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spdk1 on 09 December 2008
Squilliam said:

Obviously if we start including bundles, then we have to count all bundles or it wouldn't be fair.

The real top 10 for gaming should go:

  1. Microsoft Solitaire
  2. Microsoft Minesweeper
  3. Microsoft Hearts
  4. Microsoft Chess
  5. Microsoft Backgammon
  6. Microsoft Maze
  7. Microsoft Spider Solitaire
  8. Microsoft Freecell
  9. Microsoft Purple Place
  10. Microsoft Inkball

11. Wii Sports.

So its pretty obvious Microsoft is the real king of casual gaming and Nintendo is just a pretender to the crown. Its pretty obvious each one is a seperate and complete game they have to be counted seperately.

 

 

does that mean we can count all of the games enclosed in any minigame package as seperate games in our database as well, hell in that case Wii Sports and mario party should be dominating the charts...



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twesterm on 09 December 2008

My, you're the clever one aren't you?



 

famousringo on 09 December 2008
Squilliam said:
famousringo said:

 

What you're missing here is that Windows is a software platform, not a hardware platform. It's a completely different beast. So if you're going to insist on entering a dog in this horse race, I'll show up on a bicycle and assert that Windows and its bundled games has yet to usurp the deck of playing cards and all its bundled games as a gaming platform.

Ones electronic, the other isn't. If you bring in decks of cards, then I can bring in soccer balls and tennis balls as examples of games which outsell Wii Sports.

Its not a completely different beast anyway, wasn't it mentioned earlier that the single biggest games platform on the planet was the personal computer. Solitiare obviously counts amongst that number.

 

 

Yeah, that's almost exactly what I said in my first post, except I chose basketballs. Glad we're on the same page here.

Comparing a software platform's bundled games to a hardware platform's bundled games is pretty silly, isn't it? I mean, Windows has been bundling Minesweeper with Windows for 16 years, and will probably bundle it for as long as PCs use mice, while the Wii will be out of production within a decade and a new game will highlight the new interface of the Wii's successor.



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c0rd on 09 December 2008

Yeah, there's a legible argument. Wii Sports is worth something (can actually be sold, hence best selling), Solitaire is not.

Is your copy of Wii Sports eating dust? Click here and see how people have found a solution (It goes for much more than I would have thought, I should've checked this earlier for countering some silly arguments).



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BenVTrigger on 09 December 2008

lol even though i'm a new member I've been lurking in these forums for months and i always love the squiliam threads they are always hilarious and people get so angry at each other



FishyJoe on 09 December 2008

Is Wordpad a word processor? Is Paint a image processing program? It would be silly to compare them to Word or Photoshop, but that's precisely the same argument.

At some point you have to be reasonable. Unfortunately, immature people lack this ability.



perpride on 09 December 2008

This thread = win.



scottie on 09 December 2008

Ok squlliam, I'll take the bait

Lets consider three games Wii Sports, MS Solitaire, Gears of War

2 of these are for consoles, 1 is for pc
2 of these have see a proportion of their sales (which is neither 0% or 100%) from being bundled, 1 of these has seen 100% of its sales from bundles
2 of these are disc based games, 1 is purely part of the installation of another program

So if Wii Sports sales don't count, why do Gears of War's?



Jo21 on 09 December 2008
c0rd said:

Yeah, there's a legible argument. Wii Sports is worth something (can actually be sold, hence best selling), Solitaire is not.

Is your copy of Wii Sports eating dust? Click here and see how people have found a solution (It goes for much more than I would have thought, I should've checked this earlier for countering some silly arguments).

 

 

they worth something they are part of the price of windows, which is part of the computer you are buying

same goes for wii sport, its comes part of the wii.

for those programs you are paying for them, as part of windows, as wii sports.

 

even if you don't want them, i didn't want wii sports either i would have preferred my wii came with galaxy or something more worthy ;)