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Killergran on 12 December 2008
BTFeather55 said:

I think the Wii popularity started out as a fad due to its lower cost and scarcity, but it became more than that due to the same reasons and a handful (as opposed to the bucket load on the 360) of good games. You would increase production so that you could have the consoles in the warehouse when enough people were ready to buy them.

 

But it makes no sense to do that! It simply makes no business sense at all. And you cannot argue that Nintendo never put out a decent amount of units. It's not possible. It's been outselling the PS3 and 360 since day one. Are you saying that even though Sony and Microsoft makes fewer units than nintendo, they are somehow NOT trying to create an artificial demand? Besides, demand either is there, or it is not. Like in my examples that you so handidly ignored.

"You would increase production so that you could have the consoles in the warehouse when enough people were ready to buy them" - This makes no sense either. It really goes against the entire idea of artificial demand.

"I think the Wii popularity started out as a fad..." Started out as a fad... whut? First it was a fad, and now it isn't because it's still selling? A fad is something that is uber popular for a while, but quickly dies out. So either it is a fad, or it's not. Make up your mind.

Did you know that all games that has sold over a million copies on Xbox 360 are testosterone games, or games that are specifically aimed at males in the ages 13-30? Except for maybe Viva Pinata. These are the bucketload of games that you think are great. Just because they are targeted at you. Well... there are other people than males in the ages 13-30 in the world, thank god! They do not really like that bucket. It smells of sweat and gunpowder.

 

 

My understanding is this: You do not see the appeal of the Wii, and any explenation involving opinions not matching your own is disqualified. Thus foul play is the only option left, and the 'Wii is a fad' and 'Artificial Demand' are handidly available theories to explain the Wiis success. Nevermind that these theories are both stupid and easy to disprove.



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BTFeather55 on 12 December 2008
Killergran said:
BTFeather55 said:

I think the Wii popularity started out as a fad due to its lower cost and scarcity, but it became more than that due to the same reasons and a handful (as opposed to the bucket load on the 360) of good games. You would increase production so that you could have the consoles in the warehouse when enough people were ready to buy them.

 

But it makes no sense to do that! It simply makes no business sense at all. And you cannot argue that Nintendo never put out a decent amount of units. It's not possible. It's been outselling the PS3 and 360 since day one. Are you saying that even though Sony and Microsoft makes fewer units than nintendo, they are somehow NOT trying to create an artificial demand? Besides, demand either is there, or it is not. Like in my examples that you so handidly ignored.

"You would increase production so that you could have the consoles in the warehouse when enough people were ready to buy them" - This makes no sense either. It really goes against the entire idea of artificial demand.

"I think the Wii popularity started out as a fad..." Started out as a fad... whut? First it was a fad, and now it isn't because it's still selling? A fad is something that is uber popular for a while, but quickly dies out. So either it is a fad, or it's not. Make up your mind.

Did you know that all games that has sold over a million copies on Xbox 360 are testosterone games, or games that are specifically aimed at males in the ages 13-30? Except for maybe Viva Pinata. These are the bucketload of games that you think are great. Just because they are targeted at you. Well... there are other people than males in the ages 13-30 in the world, thank god! They do not really like that bucket. It smells of sweat and gunpowder.

 

 

My understanding is this: You do not see the appeal of the Wii, and any explenation involving opinions not matching your own is disqualified. Thus foul play is the only option left, and the 'Wii is a fad' and 'Artificial Demand' are handidly available theories to explain the Wiis success. Nevermind that these theories are both stupid and easy to disprove.

    Paragraph 1:  Their consoles are always in stores.  Sorry about your examples.

    Paragraph 2:  It doesn't if you think about it.

    Paragraph 3:  So you don't believe that things can be multiple things or evolve into other things?

    Paragraph 4:  "I can't really argue with the believers."  -- Ze do Caixio

    Paragraph 5:  I can entertain other people's ideas.  It's been my experience that they can't entertain mine.



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astrosmash on 17 December 2008
BTFeather55 said:

I think the Wii popularity started out as a fad due to its lower cost and scarcity, but it became more than that due to the same reasons and a handful (as opposed to the bucket load on the 360) of good games. You would increase production so that you could have the consoles in the warehouse when enough people were ready to buy them.

 

This argument always leaves me shaking my head. Nintendo manufactured more wii for launch than any other console launch in the history of gaming. From before day one they were cranking out consoles faster than any other console had been produced in its first year. They set records for the most consoles produced in year one and most consoles produced in year two; in year three they will set a recored for the most consoles produced in any year.

 

Why is the wii the first game console to get labelled a fad based on scarcity when there were so many of them made? It would make far more sense to say that the PS2 was a fad based on scarcity (something I do not contend), than the wii.

 

Believing that the wii's scarcity created its demand is faulty cause and effect, plain and simple.

 



Avinash_Tyagi on 17 December 2008

Wii: 220-280 million
PS3: 28-40 million
360: 35-50 million



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)