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Ehm. How would 360 "peak" last year? Please link me to posts that say that, as I linked to a post from our own resident Analyst who says that year 3 is normally peak year for consoles. Yes, DS has curb-stomped that trend, but it's the exception, not the rule. TheSource said exactly what I said. Is TheSource damage controlling too then?



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Quit dragging this off topic. If you want to debate console peaks, start your own thread.



FishyJoe said:
Quit dragging this off topic. If you want to debate console peaks, start your own thread.

I didn't drag this off-topic.  I simply made a statement.  Then it got drug off-topic by people who wanted to disagree.  >_>



FishyJoe said:
Quit dragging this off topic. If you want to debate console peaks, start your own thread.

In fairness, there isn't a lot to discuss here. We kind of already knew this. And cheering is just kind of boring.

It is a good thing, though. The sales they've gotten are really staggering. They've come far in one generation.



.... because it hit the magical $200 price point ....



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DMeisterJ said:
Shadowblind said:
DMeisterJ said:
Good. They should be.

It is the 360's peak year.

 Really? I thought 2006 was the year of 360? Oh, and 2007 was the 360s peak year. So....2008 is the peak year too?

FAST FORWARD

"2009 was the 360s peak year. Just wait, in 2010 the PS3 is going to murder it with a price cut!" -- Generic quote made by those who do not Jump In in October-November 2009

Holy cow I think I saw the future.

How would 2006 or 2007 be the 360's peak year?  When have I ever said that?  Oh, you're trolling?  Oh, okay.

Ehm.

Anyway, I'm simply repeating what TheSource has said many times before.  The third year of sales is the peak year.  And most consoles follow that trend to a "T".  Given the price point of the system, and the resulting sales, it's fairly obvious that the 360 will have the bulk of it's sales this year.  There will not be any price drops next year, given how often and much they dropped prices this year.  We won't see a sub-200 360 for a good while in NA, and with the two price cuts in EU, there's no price cut coming next year.  JP, maybe, but 360 is dead over there.  The perfect storm that was price cuts will not happen again in 2009, and by 2010 MS will be gearing up for the next XBOX. 

Trust me, 360 sales will not be higher for Calendar Year 09 than Calendar Year 08. 

If you disagree with me, you also disagree with TheSource.

P.S.  Your psychic skills suck ass.

Edit:

TheSource said:

Well the third full year is normally the peak year of a console anyway.

Link:  http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1419005

Either you JUST came on the internet this year, or your bad at lying. In 2006, it was called the year of the 360. Anti-360 fanboys trolled around the idea that Gears of War one was the peak, the best, the 360 could ever accomplish, and they pointed to an article stating that Gears 1 was the limit.

Fast forward about 6 months. 360 gets much even better sales then the previous year. We have fanboy fanaticands stating that this is the best the 360 will ever do, because from there its all downhill as the new PS3 price cut will take away sales from 360 and leave it to die. This is 2007 and early 2008.

Fast forward 2008. Fanboys aggresively stating, once again, the 360 has reached its peak, its only downhill from here, trolltrolltroll blahblahblah. Look at your post. Enough said.

You can deny it, hate it, cry for it, but like it or not, the 360 isn't gonna let up steam. The 360 will continue to push the expectations as long as it exists. You can quote me on that. Quoting past generations is moot; does this generation LOOK like any of the others?

 

 



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Shadowblind said:
DMeisterJ said:
Shadowblind said:
DMeisterJ said:
Good. They should be.

It is the 360's peak year.

 Really? I thought 2006 was the year of 360? Oh, and 2007 was the 360s peak year. So....2008 is the peak year too?

FAST FORWARD

"2009 was the 360s peak year. Just wait, in 2010 the PS3 is going to murder it with a price cut!" -- Generic quote made by those who do not Jump In in October-November 2009

Holy cow I think I saw the future.

How would 2006 or 2007 be the 360's peak year?  When have I ever said that?  Oh, you're trolling?  Oh, okay.

Ehm.

Anyway, I'm simply repeating what TheSource has said many times before.  The third year of sales is the peak year.  And most consoles follow that trend to a "T".  Given the price point of the system, and the resulting sales, it's fairly obvious that the 360 will have the bulk of it's sales this year.  There will not be any price drops next year, given how often and much they dropped prices this year.  We won't see a sub-200 360 for a good while in NA, and with the two price cuts in EU, there's no price cut coming next year.  JP, maybe, but 360 is dead over there.  The perfect storm that was price cuts will not happen again in 2009, and by 2010 MS will be gearing up for the next XBOX. 

Trust me, 360 sales will not be higher for Calendar Year 09 than Calendar Year 08. 

If you disagree with me, you also disagree with TheSource.

P.S.  Your psychic skills suck ass.

Edit:

TheSource said:

Well the third full year is normally the peak year of a console anyway.

Link:  http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1419005

Either you JUST came on the internet this year, or your bad at lying. In 2006, it was called the year of the 360. PS3 fanboys troller around the idea that Gears of War one was the peak, the best, the 360 could ever accomplish, and they pointed to an article stating that Gears 1 was the limit.

Fast forward about 6 months. 360 gets much even better sales then the previous year. We have fanboy fanaticands stating that this is the best the 360 will ever do, because from there its all downhill as the new PS3 price cut will take away sales from 360 and leave it to die. This is 2007 and early 2008.

Fast forward 2008. Fanboys aggresively stating, once again, the 360 has reached its peak, its only downhill from here, trolltrolltroll blahblahblah. Look at your post. Enough said.

You can deny it, hate it, cry for it, but like it or not, the 360 isn't gonna let up steam. The 360 will continue to push the expectations as long as it exists. You can quote me on that.

Exactly. Fanboys.  Since we do we take what fanboys say as law?  That's your source?  Fail.

My post is backed up by TheSource.  Your post is backed up by "fanboys".  Mine holds a hell of a lot more stock than yours does. 

I won't deny, cry, hate, or not like it.  I really don't give a flying fuck whether it's the peak year or not.  Cause no matter how good or bad Microsoft does this year, it doesn't personally affect me, but I'd say different for you.  >_>  I'm simply stating what our analyst said about sales and what happens.  If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with TheSource or get over it.  Since it isn't that serious.



DMeisterJ said:

Exactly. Fanboys.  Since we do we take what fanboys say as law?  That's your source?  Fail.

My post is backed up by TheSource.  Your post is backed up by "fanboys".  Mine holds a hell of a lot more stock than yours does. 

I won't deny, cry, hate, or not like it.  I really don't give a flying fuck whether it's the peak year or not.  Cause no matter how good or bad Microsoft does this year, it doesn't personally affect me, but I'd say different for you.  >_>  I'm simply stating what our analyst said about sales and what happens.  If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with TheSource or get over it.  Since it isn't that serious.

 

Well, that's not exactly true. TheSource has not said "2008 will be the peak year of the 360", he made a general statement about previous events. You are inferring from TheSource's statement about past sales that 2008 will be the peak year of the 360. In other words, you are saying "what once happened, will happen again" which is not what TheSource said. Unless he made such an statement within the context of a thread about the peak year of the 360 or the 2009 360 sales compared to 2008 sales.

So he's not challenging what TheSource said, he's challenging your personal opinion that previous history will hold true for present events. With the caveat I already talked about at the end of the previous paragraph.





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Bitmap Frogs said:
DMeisterJ said:

Exactly. Fanboys.  Since we do we take what fanboys say as law?  That's your source?  Fail.

My post is backed up by TheSource.  Your post is backed up by "fanboys".  Mine holds a hell of a lot more stock than yours does. 

I won't deny, cry, hate, or not like it.  I really don't give a flying fuck whether it's the peak year or not.  Cause no matter how good or bad Microsoft does this year, it doesn't personally affect me, but I'd say different for you.  >_>  I'm simply stating what our analyst said about sales and what happens.  If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with TheSource or get over it.  Since it isn't that serious.

Well, that's not exactly true. TheSource has not said "2008 will be the peak year of the 360", he made a general statement about previous events. You are inferring from TheSource's statement about past sales that 2008 will be the peak year of the 360. In other words, you are saying "what once happened, will happen again" which is not what TheSource said. Unless he made such an statement within the context of a thread about the peak year of the 360 or the 2009 360 sales compared to 2008 sales.

I didn't say "Source said this year is 360's peak".  I said that he said that year 3 is generally the peak.  This is 360's 3rd year, so that statement applies.  Of course it could pull a DS, but last I checked, it's not selling anywhere near that, or the Wii.  So the chances of that are slim to none. 

Who knows what will happen.  I'm no analyst so I could easily be wrong.  I'm not saying that I'm right, but I do have a great deal of histor with most consoles following this trend. 

We'll see come 12/31/09.



DMeisterJ said:
Shadowblind said:
DMeisterJ said:
Shadowblind said:
DMeisterJ said:
Good. They should be.

It is the 360's peak year.

 Really? I thought 2006 was the year of 360? Oh, and 2007 was the 360s peak year. So....2008 is the peak year too?

FAST FORWARD

"2009 was the 360s peak year. Just wait, in 2010 the PS3 is going to murder it with a price cut!" -- Generic quote made by those who do not Jump In in October-November 2009

Holy cow I think I saw the future.

How would 2006 or 2007 be the 360's peak year?  When have I ever said that?  Oh, you're trolling?  Oh, okay.

Ehm.

Anyway, I'm simply repeating what TheSource has said many times before.  The third year of sales is the peak year.  And most consoles follow that trend to a "T".  Given the price point of the system, and the resulting sales, it's fairly obvious that the 360 will have the bulk of it's sales this year.  There will not be any price drops next year, given how often and much they dropped prices this year.  We won't see a sub-200 360 for a good while in NA, and with the two price cuts in EU, there's no price cut coming next year.  JP, maybe, but 360 is dead over there.  The perfect storm that was price cuts will not happen again in 2009, and by 2010 MS will be gearing up for the next XBOX. 

Trust me, 360 sales will not be higher for Calendar Year 09 than Calendar Year 08. 

If you disagree with me, you also disagree with TheSource.

P.S.  Your psychic skills suck ass.

Edit:

TheSource said:

Well the third full year is normally the peak year of a console anyway.

Link:  http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1419005

Either you JUST came on the internet this year, or your bad at lying. In 2006, it was called the year of the 360. PS3 fanboys troller around the idea that Gears of War one was the peak, the best, the 360 could ever accomplish, and they pointed to an article stating that Gears 1 was the limit.

Fast forward about 6 months. 360 gets much even better sales then the previous year. We have fanboy fanaticands stating that this is the best the 360 will ever do, because from there its all downhill as the new PS3 price cut will take away sales from 360 and leave it to die. This is 2007 and early 2008.

Fast forward 2008. Fanboys aggresively stating, once again, the 360 has reached its peak, its only downhill from here, trolltrolltroll blahblahblah. Look at your post. Enough said.

You can deny it, hate it, cry for it, but like it or not, the 360 isn't gonna let up steam. The 360 will continue to push the expectations as long as it exists. You can quote me on that.

Exactly. Fanboys.  Since we do we take what fanboys say as law?  That's your source?  Fail.

My post is backed up by TheSource.  Your post is backed up by "fanboys".  Mine holds a hell of a lot more stock than yours does. 

I won't deny, cry, hate, or not like it.  I really don't give a flying fuck whether it's the peak year or not.  Cause no matter how good or bad Microsoft does this year, it doesn't personally affect me, but I'd say different for you.  >_>  I'm simply stating what our analyst said about sales and what happens.  If you have a problem with that, I suggest you take it up with TheSource or get over it.  Since it isn't that serious.

Huh? If what your saying it true, then these PS3 fanboys which you discredit so much are saying the exact same thing as TheSource. They both say "The 360 has reached its peak year in 2008", despite fanboys  also saying the same thing for every year the 360 has been on the market. I understand where you get this whole "3 year cycle" stuff from, but as you have seen, this generation isn't like many others before it. Games don't make a winner this time around.

Analysts make PREDICTIONS. PREDICTIONS, thus they don't know for certain what is going to happen. They make predictions based off of passed trends, and trends thus far have only shown the 360 rising. TheSource as credible as he may be, can't tell you future, as neither me nor you can. And as far as past trends go, this generation had continuously gotten larger and larger sales YoY. I expect 360 to break 1 mil for Black Friday week next week, and "past trends" have led me to that prediction.

Thus, I predict 360 will sell even greater next year then 2008. Past trends are the only source I can use. I have no reason to think otherwise.

 



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