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mesoteto on 04 December 2008
radha said:
jlauro said:
radha said:
well there most wii fans that wont admit it, but there are to many good games on HD consoles to think that someone with only a wii is a hardcore gamer, how can someone not have games like gear1/2, assassin's creed, metal gear, gran turismo,final fantasy 13, etc and call himself hardcore (most hardcore last gen did ok without zelda and mario)???

 

Your list of games is clearly flawed.  Who here has FF 13?

You are actually mistaken.  Last gen the hardcore had gamecubes and PS2.  The PS2 was the casual and hard core console.

so there are 24 million hardcore gamers in the world?????? you really think the GC was a hardore console????? ok .... note that i said that poeple with only a wii and no other console now or in the future, those cant be called  hardcore, and please, can you give a list of hardcore games on the GC that where not on the PS2?

 


so why cant you only own a wii and not be a hardcore gamer wii and no other console now or in the future, those cant be called hardcore really?

 

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radha on 04 December 2008
Khuutra said:
radha said:
jlauro said:
radha said:
well there most wii fans that wont admit it, but there are to many good games on HD consoles to think that someone with only a wii is a hardcore gamer, how can someone not have games like gear1/2, assassin's creed, metal gear, gran turismo,final fantasy 13, etc and call himself hardcore (most hardcore last gen did ok without zelda and mario)???

 

Your list of games is clearly flawed.  Who here has FF 13?

You are actually mistaken.  Last gen the hardcore had gamecubes and PS2.  The PS2 was the casual and hard core console.

so there are 24 million hardcore gamers in the world?????? ok .... note that i said that poeple with only a wii and no other console now or in the future, those cant be called  hardcore, and please, can you give a list of hardcore games on the GC that where not on the PS2?

 

I am a core gamer, buddy. I plan to buy a 360, but if I had to subsist on my Wii I could do it indefinitely. Too many games to play as is.

Eternal Darkness. Every single hardcore Nintendo first party title.

There.

So you are one of those, interesting.

 



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Khuutra on 04 December 2008
radha said:

There.

So you are one of those, interesting.

 

I fail to see what's "interesting" about it. The Wii's library is completely capable of sustaining the hardcore gaming diet by itself.



mesoteto on 04 December 2008

^agreed



 

radha on 04 December 2008
mesoteto said:
radha said:
jlauro said:
radha said:
well there most wii fans that wont admit it, but there are to many good games on HD consoles to think that someone with only a wii is a hardcore gamer, how can someone not have games like gear1/2, assassin's creed, metal gear, gran turismo,final fantasy 13, etc and call himself hardcore (most hardcore last gen did ok without zelda and mario)???

 

Your list of games is clearly flawed.  Who here has FF 13?

You are actually mistaken.  Last gen the hardcore had gamecubes and PS2.  The PS2 was the casual and hard core console.

so there are 24 million hardcore gamers in the world?????? you really think the GC was a hardore console????? ok .... note that i said that poeple with only a wii and no other console now or in the future, those cant be called  hardcore, and please, can you give a list of hardcore games on the GC that where not on the PS2?

 

 

so why cant you only own a wii and not be a hardcore gamer wii and no other console now or in the future, those cant be called hardcore really?

ok you can be a gamer, that is aout of the question, but hardcore wants intense and an inmersive experience, a hardcore gamer can have a wii, but not only a wii.

 



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tuoyo on 04 December 2008
radha said:
well there most wii fans that wont admit it, but there are to many good games on HD consoles to think that someone with only a wii is a hardcore gamer, how can someone not have games like gear1/2, assassin's creed, metal gear, gran turismo,final fantasy 13, etc and call himself hardcore (most hardcore last gen did ok without zelda and mario)???

when i ask people that own a wii why they have one they say "is fun to play bowling when people come by", that is not a hardcore gamer expression (this is not a bad thing), anyway, i do believe that wii is in a different market, the thing is sony and MS have found out there is a lot of money in the market nintendo have created(or discovered) and they want some of it, but that market is so different that when a hardcore gamer sees elements of like the ones on the wii in a hd console they complain, lots of people have complained about the new casual friendly xbox interface, and many hardcore didn't like LBP because it looked casual. The thing is hardcore gamers are rejecting things that are considered casual this may put the company in a position where they have to decide, if go the nintendo way or not.

At the end if you have a ps3 or 360 you may buy a wii (or the other way around) but i you have one hd console the probabilities of you getting another hd console is very low, that to me proof that ps3 and 360 satisfy different markets than the wii does, we can call that market what ever we want, casual , half hardcore, hybrid but not hardcore (i believe a hardcore gamer wants immersion even if he plays 15 minutes, a casual games is happy just by been entertained even if that means playing 4 hours i a row).

Did you accidently post in the wrong thread?  I ask because your post has no connection with the topic being discussed (and not because you have stated your opinion on what a hard core gamer wants as fact which I will leave for another day as it is completely off topic). 

Ah I think I see the connection now.  You are saying because the PS360 satisfy a different market from the Wii anytime we talk about the 360 winning it is implied it means winning over the Wii because the Wii does not satisfy hardcore gamers.  Correct?  Well I guess that works.  It's the same way I was stuck in a cage with an 800lb lion I decided to ignore it and as a result came out the winner.  The person who went into the cage after me did not ignore the lion and so was eaten up alive. 

 



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Phoenix_Wiight on 04 December 2008

you should mention it. if you don't its like you don't even acknowledge its existence (as supreme console overload.)



amp316 on 04 December 2008

It depends on the thread. When someone is acting like the 360 is ruling the world and ignoring the Wii, I'll say something. If someone starts a thread saying that this is about the race between the PS3 and 360, then I won't say anything. I personally think that fighting over second is silly. Vince Lomardi once said that coming in second makes you the number one loser or something like that. I don't mean that as a shot at those systems but I think that coming in second is nothing to be proud of. I don't go around saying that the Bears from a couple of years ago were awesome when they lost in the Super Bowl because I'm a Bears fan. I try to ignore that game.



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mesoteto on 04 December 2008

@radha--sorry but that is just stupid, what is more immerse then moving to get something sdone


there is only hardcore players not gamers, keep that in mind





 

bardicverse on 04 December 2008
Khuutra said:

Pssssh

KBAM is for noobs

In my day we used the arrow keys to move AND aim and we had to hold Shift to strafe

Dark days

 

Hahah I played like that for ages and refused the mouse until maybe like 3-4 years ago. I was an arrow key gunner. Old habits from my 286 ;)

 

Comrade - To each his own =) I'd like to test your controller speed vs my KB&M speed someday ;)

To be honest, I actually made a semi -Wii rig out of my PC. I have a GameCube to USB adapter, so I use the left side of the GC controller for char movement and jump, then use the mouse for fire, reload, change weapon, aiming. Its sweet, and I can sit back and not be hunched over the KB, unless I want to chat in game, which I never do.