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October 28th, 2008

Blu-ray is dead - heckuva job, Sony!

Posted by Robin Harris @ 12:31 pm

Blu-ray is in a death spiral. 12 months from now Blu-ray will be a videophile niche, not a mass market product.

With only a 4% share of US movie disc sales and HD download capability arriving, the Blu-ray disc Association (BDA) is still smoking dope. Even $150 Blu-ray players won’t save it.

16 months ago I called the HD war for Blu-ray. My bad. Who dreamed they could both lose?

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
Delusional Sony exec Rick Clancy needs to put the crack pipe down and really look at the market dynamics.

In a nutshell: consumers drive the market and they don’t care about Blu-ray’s theoretical advantages. Especially during a world-wide recession.

Remember Betamax? SACD? Minidisk? Laser Disk? DVD-Audio? There are more losers than winners in consumer storage formats.

It’s all about volume. 8 months after Toshiba threw in the towel, Blu-ray still doesn’t have it.

The Blu-ray Disc Association doesn’t get it
$150 Blu-ray disc players are a good start, but it won’t take Blu-ray over the finish line. The BDA is stuck in the past with a flawed five-year-old strategy.

The original game plan
Two things killed the original strategy. First the fight with HD DVD stalled the industry for two years. Initial enthusiasm for high definition video on disk was squandered.

Second, the advent of low cost up-sampling DVD players dramatically cut the video quality advantage of Blu-ray DVDs. Suddenly, for $100, your average consumer can put good video on their HDTV using standard DVDs. When Blu-ray got started no one dreamed this would happen.

Piggies at the trough
The Blu-ray Disc Association hoped for a massive cash bonanza as millions of consumers discovered that standard DVDs looked awful on HDTV. To cash in they loaded Blu-ray licenses with costly fees. Blu-ray doesn’t just suck for consumers: small producers can’t afford it either.

According to Digital Content Producer Blu-ray doesn’t cut it for business:

  • Recordable discs don’t play reliably across the range of Blu-ray players - so you can’t do low-volume runs yourself.
  • Service bureau reproduction runs $20 per single layer disc in quantities of 300 or less.
  • Hollywood style printed/replicated Blu-ray discs are considerably cheaper once you reach the thousand unit quantity: just $3.50 per disc.
  • High-quality authoring programs like Sony Blu-print or Sonic Solutions Scenarist cost $40,000.
  • The Advanced Access Content System - the already hacked DRM - has a one-time fee of $3000 plus a per project cost of almost $1600 plus $.04 per disk. And who defines “project?”
  • Then the Blu-ray disc Association charges another $3000 annually to use their very exclusive - on 4% of all video disks! - logo.

That’s why you don’t see quirky indie flicks on Blu-ray. Small producers can’t afford it - even though they shoot in HDV and HD.

The Storage Bits take
Don’t expect Steve Jobs to budge from his “bag of hurt” understatement. Or Final Cut Studio support for Blu-ray. I suspect that Jobs is using his Hollywood clout from his board seat on Disney and his control of iTunes to try to talk sense to the BDA.

But the BDA won’t budge. They, like so much of Hollywood, are stuck in the past.

A forward looking strategy would include:

  • Recognition that consumers don’t need Blu-ray. It is a nice-to-have and must be priced accordingly.
  • Accept the money spent on Blu-ray is gone and will never earn back the investment. Then you can begin thinking clearly about how to maximize Blu-ray penetration.
  • The average consumer will probably pay $50 more for a Blu-ray player that is competitive with the average up-sampling DVD player. Most of the current Blu-ray players are junk: slow, feature-poor and way over-priced.
  • Disk price margins can’t be higher than DVDs and probably should be less. The question the studios need to ask is: “do we want to be selling disks in 5 years?” No? Then keep it up. Turn distribution over to your very good friends at Comcast, Apple and Time Warner. You’ll be like Procter & Gamble paying Safeway to stock your products.
  • Fire all the market research firms telling you how great it is going to be. They are playing you. Your #1 goal: market share. High volume is your only chance to earn your way out of this mess and keep some control of your distribution.

Time is short. Timid incrementalism will kill you.

Like Agent Smith delivering the bad news to a complacent cop: “No, Lieutenant, your men are already dead.”

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=365&tag=nl.e550

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I would have to disagree,i see more movies coming out on blue ray,and blue ray quality movies will improve over time,if you have the TV for it of course,and blue ray is taking more market share



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what the crap, you repeated yourself like 3 times.




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nordlead said:
what the crap, you repeated yourself like 3 times.

 

huh? What are you talking about thats not my article,i just found it and decided to post it.



Here we go again.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

bluray is so dead that i had deja vu when reading that article.



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fixed it,i hate my mouse,its broke :(



We also had a positive article about Blu ray saying it was selling like hotcakes. Another day, another karma issue



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Dude excuse my french but that is the biggest crock of shit I have ever read. That's after fighting through the fact that the person who wrote it used the word "crack pipe" in his article. That's professional journalism right there. The entire article is as subjective as a statement from David Jaffe or Cliff B.

The article also repeats itself I'm not sure if that's because of how you pasted it or how bad the source itself had it.

Who the fuck is this Robin Harris guy anyway?



perpride said:
Dude excuse my french but that is the biggest crock of shit I have ever read. That's after fighting through the fact that the person who wrote it used the word "crack pipe" in his article. That's professional journalism right there. The entire article is as subjective as a statement from David Jaffe or Cliff B.

The article also repeats itself I'm not sure if that's because of how you pasted it or how bad the source itself had it.

Who the fuck is this Robin Harris guy anyway?

yea my mouse went haywire and copy n past it 3x over,i fixed it tho just reload the page :)

 



Garnett said:
nordlead said:
what the crap, you repeated yourself like 3 times.

 

huh? What are you talking about thats not my article,i just found it and decided to post it.

 

I know it wasn't your article, but you did post it and it was still repeated.

Anyways, there are points I agree with in this article, but overall, I think that downloads won't come anytime soon (at least not to that quaility) and also, people like to own phisical things.

Now, with MP3, having it all digital is convenient cause you can easily carry it around and play it in different locations. The same has not been achieved with movies.




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