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frybread on 02 December 2008

If you think facts are trolling, you're pretty delusional.



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graywolf96 on 02 December 2008
mtofu said:
^ what does it matter if the game sucked or not? this is just a video/graphics comparison.

it's an intense list to go through, so i'd be interested if there is a year by year break down. was it just early development (sloppy/fast port from 360 to ps3) or is it really that difficult to get the same results on both systems.

with the ps3 as the lead platform for some studios moving foward, will the graphics be worse off for the 360?

 

 i bet 360 would beat it in controls and sound, too



Groucho on 02 December 2008
Infamous said:
Groucho said:

Do you guys know that Fry posted this same thing on Amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/tag/video%20games/forum/ref=cm_cd_dp_rt_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdThread=Tx3BC5J67CBY22E

Fry, are you a professional troll, employed by MS?  How many other sites have you posted this to?

Seems to bother you a great deal. How is he trolling when he's providing a valid link and not even giving his opinion?

 

Oh yeah... so sorry.  He's just an evangelist, he's not a troll by your definition, eh?

I modified the post for your delicate eyes.  Hey Fry, can you answer those questions for us?

 

 



Infamous on 02 December 2008
Groucho said:
Infamous said:
Groucho said:

Do you guys know that Fry posted this same thing on Amazon?

http://www.amazon.com/tag/video%20games/forum/ref=cm_cd_dp_rt_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1T1DM93QU4XL1&cdThread=Tx3BC5J67CBY22E

Fry, are you a professional troll, employed by MS?  How many other sites have you posted this to?

Seems to bother you a great deal. How is he trolling when he's providing a valid link and not even giving his opinion?

 

Oh yeah... so sorry.  He's just an evangelist, he's not a troll by your definition, eh?

I modified the post for your delicate eyes.  Hey Fry, can you answer those questions for us?

 

 

Nope, he's not a troll by any means. Maybe a PC elitist, but how is his post trolling? Do tell. Go ahead and try to report him, watch how fast he doesn't get banned. Watch how fast this topic doesn't get locked.

 



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frybread on 02 December 2008

I don't answer loaded questions.



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Groucho on 02 December 2008

You guys do realize that Eurogamer gets a pretty substantial chunk of income via their deal with XBox Live, right? The moment Eurogamer ever claimed a substantial number of crossplat games were better, or even as good on the PS3, as opposed to the X360, they would lose that deal -- obviously Microsoft wouldn't want one of their XBL services claiming the other platform is better in any regard.

If you read Eurogamer's comparison articles, its fairly obvious that they ride the line, and frankly, they aren't basing their opinions on "facts" at all, for the most part. 

I don't think anyone here needs to read in-between the lines here to see that you're trying to make a mountain out of... well in this case, nothing. That's trolling, my friend. And if you work for MS PR, that's a double strike -- that means its your job to stir up trouble, and whitewash the facts ...which is exactly what this post, along with its companion posts on other boards, is doing.

This thread bugs me mostly because of the cross-posting with other sites, although spin bugs me in general.  Is VGChartz nothing more than another bucket to dump your spam upon?



frybread on 02 December 2008
Groucho said:

You guys do realize that Eurogamer gets a pretty substantial chunk of income via their deal with XBox Live, right? The moment Eurogamer ever claimed a substantial number of crossplat games were better, or even as good on the PS3, as opposed to the X360, they would lose that deal -- obviously Microsoft wouldn't want one of their XBL services claiming the other platform is better in any regard.

If you read Eurogamer's comparison articles, its fairly obvious that they ride the line, and frankly, they aren't basing their opinions on "facts" at all, for the most part. 

I don't think anyone here needs to read in-between the lines here to see that you're trying to make a mountain out of... well in this case, nothing. That's trolling, my friend. And if you work for MS PR, that's a double strike -- that means its your job to stir up trouble, and whitewash the facts ...which is exactly what this post, along with its companion posts on other boards, is doing.

This thread bugs me mostly because of the cross-posting with other sites, although spin bugs me in general.  Is VGChartz nothing more than another bucket to dump your spam upon?

 

If this list were comparing 360's graphics to Wii's graphics, would you be as upset?

 

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and your claim about Eurogamer is pretty extraordinary.

 



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Tyrannical on 03 December 2008

Oblivion, The Elder Scrolls IV ~ PS3

I don't think that's true. The 360 got a patch before the PS3 version hit the shelves incorporating all the improvements.



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Tyrannical on 03 December 2008
Groucho said:

If you read Eurogamer's comparison articles, its fairly obvious that they ride the line, and frankly, they aren't basing their opinions on "facts" at all, for the most part. 

Look how Eurogamer uses facts to compare the patched PS3 Bioshock with the unpatched version.

So, any enhancements to the game engine’s performance? Time to run a sample from the game’s lovely intro sequence through the Digital Foundry frame analyser in both pre-patch and post-patch formats.

Pre-Patch Result: 25.380fps average   <----Loook!!! Facts!!!!!
Patch Results: 25.174fps average

3781 frames analysed in the total sample, just 13 more unique frames in the patched version clip.

When comparing PS3/360 Fracture

If the PS3 game looks a little fuzzy in comparison, it's because a pretty substantial drop in resolution: 1152x648 versus the more normal 1280x720 - a 23 per cent improvement in favour of the Microsoft console. <----My God!!! Look, more facts!!!

 

 



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
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Spankey on 03 December 2008
Tyrannical said:
Groucho said:

If you read Eurogamer's comparison articles, its fairly obvious that they ride the line, and frankly, they aren't basing their opinions on "facts" at all, for the most part. 

Look how Eurogamer uses facts to compare the patched PS3 Bioshock with the unpatched version.

So, any enhancements to the game engine’s performance? Time to run a sample from the game’s lovely intro sequence through the Digital Foundry frame analyser in both pre-patch and post-patch formats.

Pre-Patch Result: 25.380fps average   <----Loook!!! Facts!!!!!
Patch Results: 25.174fps average

3781 frames analysed in the total sample, just 13 more unique frames in the patched version clip.

When comparing PS3/360 Fracture

If the PS3 game looks a little fuzzy in comparison, it's because a pretty substantial drop in resolution: 1152x648 versus the more normal 1280x720 - a 23 per cent improvement in favour of the Microsoft console. <----My God!!! Look, more facts!!!

 

 

 

Hmm. I wonder how much overhead the Digital Foundry frame analyser costs on each system.



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