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I wish Microsoft and Sony would state how many games have shipped 1m copies, like Nintendo does at some quarterly reportings.

For example, we saw that Wii has 36 games to ship 1m copies, while VGC lists only 29 million-sellers. DS, similarly, had 69 million-shippers.

Simple shipment totals would give us the best apples-to-apples comparisons. There may be some games to ship 1m and not sell 1m, but any attempt to track worldwide sales is going to be less reliable than a console maker simply tracking what goes out the door.



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shio said:
Squilliam said:
Barozi said:
shio said:
It's certainly impressive for a console, but I'm more impressed by the Wii, which is selling even more software than 360.

If you take out the bundled games for both consoles, 360 wins

Solitaire outsold the Wiis whole library. I don't dare think how many times over.

Best game ever = Solitaire, because its awesome. I think Shio counts it when he says PC games outsell console games, but I think its unfair to count bundles!

 

Even if you take out Wii Sports bundles, Wii still has 2 10-million sellers, and MK Wii also going to reach that figure. Wii has 15 2-million sellers and 29 1-million sellers... maybe not as great as 360 but it was released a year after. Now that is impressive.


I don't really find Wii software sales that impressive... If you were to make take out Wii Play or at least set it to the amount that Wii Play sold, the 360 is still outselling it in total software units shipped.  Figure in the significantly higher cost of software and the total dollars generated from software sales are higher on the 360 for certain.  Assuming profit margins are roughly the same, 360 games are making developers more dollars.  The Wii's install base is approaching double that of the 360 at this point and should be trouncing the 360 in software sales...

I own a Wii and it is a fun console, but... I'm sorry, Wii Sports and Wii Play don't count as real game sales.  One is a pack in and the other is a wiimote with a $10 game.  If you take those out and then take out some percentage of the bundled 360 games like Marvel and Forza, the 360 is still selling a hell of a lot more software than the Wii.

If I were a third party and was trying to figure out where the money is, it is on the 360... The bottom line is that if the game is good, it will sell well on the 360.

 



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kn said:
shio said:
Squilliam said:
Barozi said:
shio said:
It's certainly impressive for a console, but I'm more impressed by the Wii, which is selling even more software than 360.

If you take out the bundled games for both consoles, 360 wins

Solitaire outsold the Wiis whole library. I don't dare think how many times over.

Best game ever = Solitaire, because its awesome. I think Shio counts it when he says PC games outsell console games, but I think its unfair to count bundles!

 

Even if you take out Wii Sports bundles, Wii still has 2 10-million sellers, and MK Wii also going to reach that figure. Wii has 15 2-million sellers and 29 1-million sellers... maybe not as great as 360 but it was released a year after. Now that is impressive.


I don't really find Wii software sales that impressive... If you were to make take out Wii Play or at least set it to the amount that Wii Play sold, the 360 is still outselling it in total software units shipped.  Figure in the significantly higher cost of software and the total dollars generated from software sales are higher on the 360 for certain.  Assuming profit margins are roughly the same, 360 games are making developers more dollars.  The Wii's install base is approaching double that of the 360 at this point and should be trouncing the 360 in software sales...

I own a Wii and it is a fun console, but... I'm sorry, Wii Sports and Wii Play don't count as real game sales.  One is a pack in and the other is a wiimote with a $10 game.  If you take those out and then take out some percentage of the bundled 360 games like Marvel and Forza, the 360 is still selling a hell of a lot more software than the Wii.

If I were a third party and was trying to figure out where the money is, it is on the 360... The bottom line is that if the game is good, it will sell well on the 360.

 

Now don't say stuff like that. You are forgetting that developing a hd-title costs more than 40 million and wii development is almost free. So wii titles don't have to sell more than 100k to make profit!

 



Maybe next gen, Microsoft should always bundle a small game with the console (for its whole lifetime), and another little game for every controller.

It's about bragging rights, you see. If they did that with the 360, they could have sold a game 20+ million copies, and who knows what amount with the controller bundle.



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Actually doesn't 360 come with Hexic HD or something? It should be counted!?



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I dunno. Don't have a 360, yet. Is it DLC or boxed?



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Hmm. Tough call.

I think for it to be counted by VGChartz, it has to be on disc or something, so that it's considered bundled.

If that wasn't the case, the Arcade would have 5 bundled games. 1 Sega Superstar Tennis and 4 downloadable games (I think).

I could be wrong here though.



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Esa-Petteri said:
kn said:
shio said:
Squilliam said:
Barozi said:
shio said:
It's certainly impressive for a console, but I'm more impressed by the Wii, which is selling even more software than 360.

If you take out the bundled games for both consoles, 360 wins

Solitaire outsold the Wiis whole library. I don't dare think how many times over.

Best game ever = Solitaire, because its awesome. I think Shio counts it when he says PC games outsell console games, but I think its unfair to count bundles!

 

Even if you take out Wii Sports bundles, Wii still has 2 10-million sellers, and MK Wii also going to reach that figure. Wii has 15 2-million sellers and 29 1-million sellers... maybe not as great as 360 but it was released a year after. Now that is impressive.


I don't really find Wii software sales that impressive... If you were to make take out Wii Play or at least set it to the amount that Wii Play sold, the 360 is still outselling it in total software units shipped.  Figure in the significantly higher cost of software and the total dollars generated from software sales are higher on the 360 for certain.  Assuming profit margins are roughly the same, 360 games are making developers more dollars.  The Wii's install base is approaching double that of the 360 at this point and should be trouncing the 360 in software sales...

I own a Wii and it is a fun console, but... I'm sorry, Wii Sports and Wii Play don't count as real game sales.  One is a pack in and the other is a wiimote with a $10 game.  If you take those out and then take out some percentage of the bundled 360 games like Marvel and Forza, the 360 is still selling a hell of a lot more software than the Wii.

If I were a third party and was trying to figure out where the money is, it is on the 360... The bottom line is that if the game is good, it will sell well on the 360.

 

Now don't say stuff like that. You are forgetting that developing a hd-title costs more than 40 million and wii development is almost free. So wii titles don't have to sell more than 100k to make profit!

 

If you're going to pull out 3 figures that are very hard to believe, you should at least have a source or two to back them up. I can already tell that all 3 of them are way off.

 



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:

If you're going to pull out 3 figures that are very hard to believe, you should at least have a source or two to back them up. I can already tell that all 3 of them are way off.

 

O'rly.