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Very possible at this rate. I've had a 19-20 million estimate for quite some time now. 19.5 would not surprise me one bit at this rate. NPD will probably not be the greatest for Sony and the PS3.



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Max King of the Wild said:

I think you are underestimating SW sales. I think WKC could do very well and get to around 500k LT

Why?  I mean, I think your overestimating it due to the actual numbers we have.

You expect it to sell better then every PS2 game Level 5 has ever made that wasn't named Dragon Quest?  Despite the massive userbase difference?

Rogue Galaxy sold less then DW6.

Why should White Knight Chronicles be any different?

360,000 on the PS2 is going to become 500,000 on the PS3?

Despite the giant hardware difference?



kylohk said:
Whoever makes a price cut near Xmas will get a big boost, even if the cut is small.

During christmas, many goods receive price cuts and are shown in ads. Things with lowered prices always draw the shoppers' attention.


None of the three consoles will get price cuts for Christmas though. Nintendo doesn't need to, Microsoft already did and Sony can't.

 



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Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

I think you are underestimating SW sales. I think WKC could do very well and get to around 500k LT

Why?  I mean, I think your overestimating it due to the actual numbers we have.

You expect it to sell better then every PS2 game Level 5 has ever made that wasn't named Dragon Quest?  Despite the massive userbase difference?

Rogue Galaxy sold less then DW6.

Why should White Knight Chronicles be any different?

 

Guess we'll find out Dec. 25th.

I'm thinking it will get around 200k(180-200) release week with 250k being max... Half of what I think it could get LT. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.



Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

I think you are underestimating SW sales. I think WKC could do very well and get to around 500k LT

Why?  I mean, I think your overestimating it due to the actual numbers we have.

You expect it to sell better then every PS2 game Level 5 has ever made that wasn't named Dragon Quest?  Despite the massive userbase difference?

Rogue Galaxy sold less then DW6.

Why should White Knight Chronicles be any different?

 

Guess we'll find out Dec. 25th.

I'm thinking it will get around 200k(180-200) release week with 250k being max... Half of what I think it could get LT. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

That's because you haven't researched it enough.

Rogue Galaxy maxed out at 360,000.

Guess what Rogue Galaxy opened at?

227K.

Why would WKC have better legs then Rogue Galaxy?

RPGs aren't a genre with legs.

 



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Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

I think you are underestimating SW sales. I think WKC could do very well and get to around 500k LT

Why?  I mean, I think your overestimating it due to the actual numbers we have.

You expect it to sell better then every PS2 game Level 5 has ever made that wasn't named Dragon Quest?  Despite the massive userbase difference?

Rogue Galaxy sold less then DW6.

Why should White Knight Chronicles be any different?

 

Guess we'll find out Dec. 25th.

I'm thinking it will get around 200k(180-200) release week with 250k being max... Half of what I think it could get LT. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

That's because you haven't researched it enough.

Rogue Galaxy maxed out at 360,000.

Guess what Rogue Galaxy opened at?

227K.

Why would WKC have better legs then Rogue Galaxy?

RPGs aren't a genre with legs.

 

 

 My dear friend the Ps3 is not the Ps2. Take that how you will.

(Also Rogue Galaxy released very late in the Ps2's life and we know the damages sales somewhat)



Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

I think you are underestimating SW sales. I think WKC could do very well and get to around 500k LT

Why?  I mean, I think your overestimating it due to the actual numbers we have.

You expect it to sell better then every PS2 game Level 5 has ever made that wasn't named Dragon Quest?  Despite the massive userbase difference?

Rogue Galaxy sold less then DW6.

Why should White Knight Chronicles be any different?

 

Guess we'll find out Dec. 25th.

I'm thinking it will get around 200k(180-200) release week with 250k being max... Half of what I think it could get LT. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

That's because you haven't researched it enough.

Rogue Galaxy maxed out at 360,000.

Guess what Rogue Galaxy opened at?

227K.

Why would WKC have better legs then Rogue Galaxy?

RPGs aren't a genre with legs.

 

 

 My dear friend the Ps3 is not the Ps2. Take that how you will.

Yes.  The PS3 so far has been shown to have worse legs.

Making your opinion even more baffling.

Compare Hot Shots Golf 3 with Hot Shots Golf PS3.

 



Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

I think you are underestimating SW sales. I think WKC could do very well and get to around 500k LT

Why?  I mean, I think your overestimating it due to the actual numbers we have.

You expect it to sell better then every PS2 game Level 5 has ever made that wasn't named Dragon Quest?  Despite the massive userbase difference?

Rogue Galaxy sold less then DW6.

Why should White Knight Chronicles be any different?

 

Guess we'll find out Dec. 25th.

I'm thinking it will get around 200k(180-200) release week with 250k being max... Half of what I think it could get LT. Doesn't sound unreasonable to me.

That's because you haven't researched it enough.

Rogue Galaxy maxed out at 360,000.

Guess what Rogue Galaxy opened at?

227K.

Why would WKC have better legs then Rogue Galaxy?

RPGs aren't a genre with legs.

 

 

 My dear friend the Ps3 is not the Ps2. Take that how you will.

Yes.  The PS3 so far has been shown to have worse legs.

Making your opinion even more baffling.

 

2
Rogue Galaxy
Sony Computer Entertainment 1 226,894 226,894
3
Ryuu ga Gotoku
Sega 1 133,399 133,399

Released the same week... hm.... By the way Yakuza now has 740k sales in Japan with opening with less than Rogue Galaxy.

And these were released late in PS2's life.

1
Tales of the Abyss
Namco 1 377,950 377,950

Week after RG was released... Now has 570k in Japan only

1
Kingdom Hearts II
Square Enix 1 740,207

Released week after that.... along with

4
Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3
Bandai 1 206,528

Released week before

1
Bio Hazard 4
Capcom 1 241,586

Now this time the Ps3 will have one big release with what type of competition?

Of those were major games for Japan... I don't think WKC will get lost in the sea of games this time.

 



Try comparing games in the same vein.



50/50 chance, since sony might give ps3 free with hdtv's and consider that sales, along with other offers, liek they did last year. The pressing problem for sony is the widening gap of ps3 to the other consoles, and the lowest attach rate for software. Developers can put 2-and-2 together, and looks at the vaunted 360 exclusives like LBP and R2 mediorce sales, and it impact what 3rd parties will want to do in the way of exclusives. 2Kgames is probably smarting pretty badly from the weak sales of bioshock, after all the effort they put into the port.



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