| MrBubbles said: what would happen if it turned out he wasnt born in the US? |
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Jackson50 said:
If by some Hail Mary Obama's win was overturned, the consquences would be dire. There would be rioting in the cities and on campuses across the nation. It would further erode the credibility of our Democratic system in the world. Let me reitirate what I have said before...no court will nullify the results of the election. They will either find a loophole or rule definitely that Obama was a citizen. If you were inquiring from a legal standpoint, then I believe the 20th Amendment would cover this cirsumstance. Joe Biden would be the president. |
| Tyrannical said: So, Obama not a US citizen lawsuit picking up some steam. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931 http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html
Former minor Presedential Candadite Alan Keyes (who is also black) is suing in California to have him disqualified there. Keyes as he ran for President has legal standing to pursue this, unlike some other law suits that were dismissed due to lack of standing. Among the various allegations...... Obama was born in Kenya, and his mother flew back to Hawaii a few days later and regsitered him as an at home birth. His deceased mother's passport records are being sought to show this. Keep in mind pregnant woman are banned from flying during their last trimester. The birth certfificate Obama has released is only the short form lacking the hospitol and delivering doctors signature. Keyes is seeking the long form birth certificate. Normaly a child has automatic US citizenship if one parent is a US citizen and the child is born in a foreign country. But under the law at the time, the American parent must be a minimum of 19 years old. Obama's mother was only 18. Obama's mother remarried an Indonesian and moved there with Obama. Obama's step father adopted him and naturilzed him as an Indonesian citizen. Obama lost his US citizenship (if he ever had it) at this time. Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship at the time. Obama did not swear an alleigence to the US when he turned 18 (I think he had until he turned 21) to regain his US citizenship, assuming he ever had it. He used an Indonesian passport when he was in his early 20's to visit Pakistan. Evidence he retained his Indonesian citizenship after turning 18. |
Isn't that what Gov. Palin did when she had her kid? She flew back to Alaska from Texas to have the kid in an Alaskan hospital, right? She said she was perfectly fine with it...
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The birth certificate Obama he has on his web site is not what they want, that is the short form.
They are seeking the hand written long form filled out by the doctor.
Long forms are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child's birth. The long form usually includes parents' information (address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth, etc.), additional information on the child's birthplace, and information on the doctors that assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents .
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smbu2000 said:
Isn't that what Gov. Palin did when she had her kid? She flew back to Alaska from Texas to have the kid in an Alaskan hospital, right? She said she was perfectly fine with it...
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Yawn, been there done that. Look at The Source's post.
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I knew about this months ago w/ Philip Berg's case against Obama on the certificate issue--he's a lifelong Dem to boot and a paid ACLU member so they can't throw the race card!
Aw crap, without the race card, Obama's got no other valid arguments. I guess we need to deport him or something.
If he is found Inappropriate for office, before he takes office, then the Democrats simply get to pick the next president directly...
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