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sinha on 17 November 2008
ssj12 said:
here is the hole in this, most developers are using the PS3 as the main dev platform now for multiplatform games.

 

Most?  Can you provide some evidence to back up this claim?



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

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De85 on 17 November 2008
Jordahn said:
Oh, my... Yes, let's all take the worst territory the PS3 is doing in (N.A.) and preach this rhetorical doom and gloom to the entire world of software sales. And added to that with being released a year later than the 360, doubling as a quality Blu-ray player, and being the most expensive console on the market; a 2:1 ratio 360:PS3 software sold according to this site is good worldwide however you see it with the PS3 about 75% of the 360's marketshare. That's the big picture with 3rd party developers still heavly supporting the PS3.

 

No, a 4:3 ratio 360:PS3 would be good because it would mean parity.  The games cost the same so ceteris paribus they should sell proportionally the same. 

The problem is, all else is not equal, and apparently 360 owners purchase more SW per capita, hence the title saying 360 is the best bet for 3rd party devs.  Of course multiplat is the best bet for the developer, but not all devs have the manpower/resources for multiplat development.  This is where we will see the difference.



shio on 17 November 2008

Electronic Arts and Activision Blizzard disagree with the article: PC is a much bigger money maker than X360 or any other platform.

Activision Blizzard's last quarter revenue:
PC: 46%
All Consoles: 42%



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Strategyking92 on 17 November 2008
leo-j said:
Well isnt it due to the fact that the 360 has a 14million install base in the U.S?

the ps3 has a 6 million?

 

your point? console sales to affect software sales, but it ain't publishers fault.



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noname2200 on 17 November 2008
JaggedSac said:
Well, it was all doom and gloom for the 360 until about 3/4 months ago.

Hey! You have a memory that stretches further than last week. You're not allowed to use internet forums.

 



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De85 on 17 November 2008
shio said:
Electronic Arts and Activision Blizzard disagree with the article: PC is a much bigger money maker than X360 or any other platform.

Activision Blizzard's last quarter revenue:
PC: 46%
All Consoles: 42%

 

That may be true, but it tells an incomplete story.  A huge chunk of that is from WoW, and while there's nothing wrong with that I do not want every company putting out WoW clones trying to cash in on the success.  It's a business model that works for Blizzard but may not work for other companies.



ssj12 on 17 November 2008
sinha said:
ssj12 said:
here is the hole in this, most developers are using the PS3 as the main dev platform now for multiplatform games.

 

Most?  Can you provide some evidence to back up this claim?

EA, Activision, Atari, Midway, and a few others have announced before that they are or in the process of switching their main dev platform to the PS3. EA has already done it for their Sports titles, Activsion has had a few titles as PS3 as main or developed each game individually on each platform, Atari has made their multiplats with PS3 as main platform.

As long as the main publishers are demanding it dev teams owned by the publishers have to use the PS3 as main platform. \

Since EA and Activision own a large chunk of developers it is easy to say most developers are using the PS3 as main plat.

 



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ssj12 on 17 November 2008
De85 said:
shio said:
Electronic Arts and Activision Blizzard disagree with the article: PC is a much bigger money maker than X360 or any other platform.

Activision Blizzard's last quarter revenue:
PC: 46%
All Consoles: 42%

 

That may be true, but it tells an incomplete story.  A huge chunk of that is from WoW, and while there's nothing wrong with that I do not want every company putting out WoW clones trying to cash in on the success.  It's a business model that works for Blizzard but may not work for other companies.

 

Ea has proven PC is beyond profitable, if Valve, Epic, and many other developers havent already.., they posted nice profts of SPORE and a few other titles including Crysis.



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ssj12 on 17 November 2008
Strategyking92 said:
leo-j said:
Well isnt it due to the fact that the 360 has a 14million install base in the U.S?

the ps3 has a 6 million?

 

your point? console sales to affect software sales, but it ain't publishers fault.

 

we his point is that the US market isnt Sony's strongest market, it is the EU. Of course numbers will show positive sales for the 360 in the US while in the EU it will show positive for Sony.



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sinha on 17 November 2008
ssj12 said:
sinha said:
ssj12 said:
here is the hole in this, most developers are using the PS3 as the main dev platform now for multiplatform games.

 

Most?  Can you provide some evidence to back up this claim?

EA, Activision, Atari, Midway, and a few others have announced before that they are or in the process of switching their main dev platform to the PS3. EA has already done it for their Sports titles, Activsion has had a few titles as PS3 as main or developed each game individually on each platform, Atari has made their multiplats with PS3 as main platform.

As long as the main publishers are demanding it dev teams owned by the publishers have to use the PS3 as main platform.

Since EA and Activision own a large chunk of developers it is easy to say most developers are using the PS3 as main plat.

 

 

Link?

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick