my point was, if you live in the US, you live in a country that does not have a single law I can think of, that keeps you poor.

No one, in the US anyway, is forced to be poor.

My point is, if you live in the US, you live in a country where healthy peole don't need fat people to be healthy, but rich people need poor peole to be rich.  If rich people had to build their own cars and houses and toilets and manage their own farms, they wouldn't have enough time to work at their really fancy jobs and be so rich.

If you had a family of 10 people, each with different skill sets, it would make sense to have a few in charge of hunting, a few in charge of cooking, one in charge of making clothes, a few in charge of building your house, etc. etc. and maybe you'd have one person in charge of the family, the patriarch or matriarch making the executive decisions about how to deal with other families, but if he ate all the food and told the family to fuck off, they'd beat the shit otu of him.

Now imagine that that family is 300 million people, and all the executives moved into gated communities and told the hunters, chefs, and clothesmakers "Haha, you stupid fucks, you deserve your shit jobs because you're lazy and don't work as hard as me."

This is a pretty sloppy analogy, but I still think it makes my point that rich people can't be rich without millions of poor people to package their food and clean their toilets.  Show me one rich person who lives in a bubble.

In the case of the giant country, when you have a rich class insulting the poor and exploiting them, you either get a revolution or if it's a democracy, the poor majority start voting for a fairer system and you end up TURNING INTO EUROPE.

yes, you need rich people and poor people, but nothing says you have to be in any group. So with 20 people, if 5 were going to be poor, the incentive is not to be one of those 5.

The advantage of capitalism, is even those 5 live a better life then all 20 if they were in a different form of government.

You call yourself poor. but you have a PC, a Mac, an internet connection, a gaming system or you would not be on this site.

Poor is a relative term.  500 years ago it meant you didn't get to eat. Today, it means you get basic cable, and not the high end stuff.

When you get a big security blanket for the poor, the incentive to be rich doesn't go away.  I have enough to survive.  I don't get lazy and give up on life and just hang out on the internet.  I'm still going to school and trying to better myself.  They still have rich people in Europe too.  You should want to keep poor people happy so they don't go crazy and start looting and robbing and attacking people.

I don't call myself poor (although 3 years ago I was under the poverty line, I passed it in October 2005, no idea where I am now though, most likely under it again).  I'm just broke as hell right now.  I was living large the last couple years until I went back to school full-time and stopped working 2 jobs.  I saved most of my money for years and then blew 4 grand traveling across Japan and buying a really nice camera for the trip.

Today we're a lot better off than 500 years ago, but there are still poor people starving to death and freezing to death in America.

Fat tax -$.03 per gram of fat in food on the wholesale level.

Economy fixed, obesity fixed, federal budget fixed. It's intellectually honest too.

Edit: BTW, I am fatter than my picture makes it seem.

Nobody seems to see the irony here.
By giving them money, they get to buy more food to stuff themselves up.

Most of them can't stop eating and few of them have metabolism problem.

(But since they f*ed up their metabolism from stuffing junk into their body, those "few" aren't so few anymore)

So, their solution is... tax the ones doing things right and reward the people that f*ed up. (Oh my, sounds a lot like all those bail-out.)

Except for a health care system that bankrupts most individuals, greedy corporations that will manipulate power supplies at your expense to boost its revenue whilst gambling away you pension benefits,  government and social indoctrination to live a capitalistic lifestyle outside your means, credit card companies charging mob-like interest rates, and incumbent government that offers tax cuts to the wealthy whilst the poor struggle.   Yeah, nobody is forced to be poor in the US. : )

Not saying that many other countries are any better, but maybe you should just be a little more carefully before throwing out nationalistic statements like that. 

But back to the topic , incentives are wrong, as they give people a choice. I think schools should have a responsibility of reporting severly obese children, and parents should be educated into helping the condition, or be fined or lose your kid iif they refuse.

If your kid is 5 feet tall and weighs 4000 pounds, sorry, but somewhere you are not fulfilling your parental duty. It may sound harsh, but somewhere in this kids upbringing, something went wrong, no matter how subconsciously. You should not be paid for this. You should be educated on how to reverse/prevent this, and fined if you refuse.

Galaki, very few people in America are limited by finances in calorie consumption.