I love Kucinich. He's almost liberal enough for me, hahaha. I voted for Kucinich in 2004, and I was gonna do it again, but luckily Obama was my 2nd choice and he pulled through for me.

I would have bet money that Gravel was your 2nd choice...I suppose I am fortunate to not have made that bet.

You know, you may say Palin is stupid and all that, but she's the governer.
Now, if she was stupid as you thought she was, she wouldn't be THE governer.

The same for Bush, he may give you the impression that he's stupid, but who's the one being fooled?

What she said is basically true. I still overall support George Bush even if I haven't agreed with or cared for all his decisions and handling of the country. With that said, I know a lot of people don't like him and even hate him. A big percentage of Americans wanted nothing to do with a Republican in office almost regardless of who it was. I don't know if any Republican could've won against Obama and all the hype he had going. I think the McCain-Palin ticket did as well as could be expected.

Kudos for Palin. About time someone said the truth. I am a conservative first and foremost, and the republican party has abandoned me and those like me for years now. I am tired of propping them up and trying to act like they care about us anymore. I say screw them both, republicans and democrats, and lets get someone in there who really cares about the country instead of their own power. (Sorry, just blowing off a little steam)

Just because the American public elects someone does not automatically make them smart.  It doesn't matter if she is THE governor.  Hell, Alaska voted for a convicted Senator over a Democrat, so they aren't exactly unbiased.

Hell, in Texas people would probably vote for a Republican who had molested children over a Democrat in many parts of the state.  Your logic completely ignores that people are inherently fickle and biased, not to mention that the average person has mild to severe brain damage.

It's exactly the way Gene Heckman said it in Mississippi Burning about why his dad didn't like blacks (gays now).

"If I'm not better than a nigger, then who am I better than?"

Don't ban me it's just a quote as it was said.

Dubious associations and accusations are even worse than what you are claiming.

Besides, Bush isn't that dumb, just that he often doesn't bother to think rather than being unable to. It's a subtle difference, but it's the difference between stupidity and genuing ignorance.

I'm not sure what exactly you are getting at in relation to the current discussion.  In relation to the Bush-McCain association, I was amazed at how much McCain willfully associated himself with Bush.  If I was McCain's political advisor, I would have told McCain to distance himself from every unpopular decision that Bush made, whether or not it upset the conservative base.  The conservative base may elect you in the primary, but you won't win an election with just them supporting you.

A perfect example is the Bush tax cuts.  It was just plain political suicide for McCain to stand by them so readily, especially in a time when the average person is hurting badly due to a sour economy.  It comes off as elitist to support keeping these tax cuts for the rich, not to mention that people regularly refer to them as the "Bush tax cuts."  What did McCain expect?  You can't be a cheerleader for your predecessors policies and expect the American public to just overlook it.

Its even further complicated by the fact that McCain voted against the tax cuts.  People jumped all over Kerry for the "voted for it before I voted against it," and this is the same kind of pitfall McCain walked himself right into.  His campaign advisors were just plain idiots.  They ran a traditional Republican campaign with a non-traditional Republican in an environment that was hostile to Republicans.  Its like trying to jump a cliff with a bus full of propane tanks rather than take an alternate route.  They set themselves up for failure on Day 1.  The Democrats didn't even have to do much work to convince people that McCain supported Bush.

I am baffled to this day why McCain moved so far to the right during his campaign.  That is not who McCain was before the election season, that is not the kind of behavior that would get him elected in the current political climate, and that is not the kind of decision to make when you are running on the same ticket as the unpopular incumbent.  McCain is a maverick, but he was not a maverick at all during the campaign season.  He was supporting a platform that he himself wasn't genuinely for, which was just plain stupid.

Adjusting your policies to fit with those of your party base during the campaign season is a sure fire way to lose an election.  The voters in the middle are the ones who put you in office, not the voters who would vote for you anyways.  People can bemoan the dishonesty of the Democrats in tying McCain to Bush, but McCain was helping them do so at every step of the way.  I like McCain a lot, and think he is an incredibly honest politician, but I was shocked at how traditionally Republican his campaign was even thouch McCain is not a traditional Republican.  I don't know what the hell he was thinking, unless he wanted to actually lose the election.

Actually, his campaign didn't really matter that much. The media was giving all attention to either how awesome they thought obama was, or how much they though palin sucked.

McCain wouldn't have got much attention no matter what he did.