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marc on 08 August 2007
NJ5 said:
marc said:
NJ5 said:
marc said:
NJ5 said:
mrstickball said:

IMO, I think 60% of the reason the Wii is selling so well is the price, not the software or controller.

So why did their previous consoles sell so much worse than the Wii? The same for other previous consoles from other companies.

 


Because the other console (PS) was about the same price not $300 more expensive. Note that the most expensive console was the Saturn and look what happened to that despite its early release. The PS also appealed to people who liked having CDs as the media, for various unsaid reasons.


When you read my post, it should be obvious that I'm telling you to compare it with cheaper consoles, no? Or are you saying the Wii is the cheapest console ever? BTW, the PS is not a Nintendo console as far as I know...

 


Maybe Im a bit slow but where in the following quote do you state to compare to "cheaper consoles?"



Well, for example in the part where I say "their previous consoles"? "Their" being "Nintendo's". Is that explicit enough for you?

It's also a matter of logic, if I'm making the point that price is not the biggest factor for a console selling well (in the specific case of the Wii), it's natural to use cheaper consoles as potential evidence.

 

NJ5 said: "So why did their previous consoles sell so much worse than the Wii? The same for other previous consoles from other companies."

The 2nd sentence "explicitly" states "from OTHER companies?" Is this just a mirage I see? Or are you going to argue that there is no spoon?

When comparing previous generations you must take into account the competition. At one point the PS1 and N64 were the same price! Thus there was competition. You think the PS brand would still be around if the PS1 was $400-500? Even if they had great games they would have lost that generation. You can take the Sega Saturn as evidence of that. Your conclusion is based on a comparison that is completely out of context (cross generation rather than 1 generation at a time). The evidence in each generation tells us otherwise. The Neo Geo failed despite being lightyears ahead of the competition in quality & technology. The Saturn failed even though it had great games (some of the best games of the generation while it was supported). The PS3 is failing despite its vast brand recognition. What is the common thread between all these consoles? They were all great systems that priced themselves out of competition right out of the gate.

Price is a huge, underestimated and understated, factor in all venues of business not just games (with exception to the services sector & monopolies). If this werent true then China would be out of business and everyone would be driving a Jaguar.



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TheKingslayer on 08 August 2007

Updates:

n4g.com 

An image of the HDMI-enabled console provided a manufacturing date of July 4, 2007.

 Microsoft has confirmed the addition of HDMI ports to all newly manufactured Xbox 360 premium consoles. "Yes, we are offering an HDMI port for Xbox 360 simply as another choice in Xbox 360 owners games and entertainment experience," a Microsoft rep told Shacknews in an e-mailed statement. "Retailers are gradually introducing HDMI-enabled Xbox 360s into the channel to meet demand."

Regarding the possibility of an HDMI output on the $279.99 SKU, the Microsoft rep said, "We have not announced any plans to add HDMI to the Xbox 360 Core System." Microsoft would not reveal whether any other additions had been made to newly available Xbox 360 models, such as the inclusion of a 65nm process. "We are constantly updating the console?s more than 1700 internal components and therefore will not comment on details of specific components or manufacturing processes," he said.

 

Kotaku

I suppose it isn't too surprising that today's $50 price drop caused a bit of a spike in Amazon sales of the Xbox 360. Though as of this afternoon, it's still nowhere near the 1,000 percent jump the 360's HD-DVD received after its price drop and five free HD-DVD deal.

Currently the Elite version of the 360 is seeing a 164 percent increase, jumping from the 37 spot all the way up to number 14. Meanwhile the 20GB version of the 360 is up 258 percent leap-frogging the Elite in popularity as it skips from 43 to the 12 spot. I was a little surprised to see that the the lonesome core 360, cheapest of the trio, was nowhere to be seen in the top 20. Despite its low, almost Wii-like price, its down in the sales doldrums, bumped up a mere 49 percent from 268 to 179. Hey, I guess consumers are smart afterall. Oh, wow, since last I posted this it looks like Forza has shot through the roof jumping 11,100% from number 112 to number one in sales rank.

P.S. This what a price cut does. Pay attention to this for the next three months