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bigjon on 09 November 2008

to add, why did he not pick this guy over Biden? I would have been way more open to a Obama/ Emanuelle ticket.



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kazadoom on 09 November 2008
whatever said:
kazadoom said:
So I guess we can look forward to Clinton 3, oh boy, just what we need, ugh!

you'd prefer Bush 3??

 

 

I would prefer neither actually.  The whole system is corrupt in my opinion.  I think they all need to be kicked out.



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steven787 on 09 November 2008

He volunteered as a civilian support to the Israel Military during the Operation: Desert Storm.

He spent a few months cleaning brakes. Seriously.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

akuma587 on 09 November 2008
elprincipe said:
It's sad, although not unexpected, that a "post-partisan/bipartisan" President-elect Obama has chosen one of the most vicious partisan hacks in the House of Representatives as his chief of staff. What next, Barbara Boxer for EPA? Jim McDermott for Defense? Jim Moran for HUD? I can't wait to see what hypocrisy surfaces next, or on second thought maybe I can.

I guess you also missed that Obama plans on keeping the current Secretary of Defense, at least until Robert Gates chooses to retire.  He wants to voluntarily retire probably within the next year as he feels he is "Too old for this shit" (his own words, he's a Lethal Weapon fan).

Oh wait, you probably never even looked.

 



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akuma587 on 09 November 2008
elprincipe said:
akuma587 said:
elprincipe said:
It's sad, although not unexpected, that a "post-partisan/bipartisan" President-elect Obama has chosen one of the most vicious partisan hacks in the House of Representatives as his chief of staff. What next, Barbara Boxer for EPA? Jim McDermott for Defense? Jim Moran for HUD? I can't wait to see what hypocrisy surfaces next, or on second thought maybe I can.

Policy-wise, Mr. Emanuel has fashioned himself as a "New Democrat" in the Clinton mold. He has long been an advocate of governing from the center, reaching across the aisle to seek consensus. As a Clinton adviser, he championed welfare reform and free trade. He's even called for a flatter, less progressive system of taxation. As a congressman, Mr. Emanuel supported the Bush administration's decision to remove Saddam Hussein, though he subsequently criticized the president's management of the war in Iraq.

So I asked Mr. Emanuel if the election of an unabashed liberal like Mr. Obama has made the New Democrat strategy obsolete. Perhaps what we witnessed on Tuesday means that liberalism is ascendant and the U.S. is no longer a center-right nation. "I think the country is incredibly pragmatic," he responded. "Pragmatic and progressive. But you still have to mix and match different approaches to reach your objectives. You have to be flexible."

Doesn't exactly look like he is your rank and file Congressman to me.

 

 

Not to be rude, but assuming all you know of Emanuel is what you read in the article, I know a lot more than you do.

Care to share?  Is this information apparently too incredible for you to share with us members of the lowly masses?  And who did you expect Obama to pick for his Chief of Staff?  Rush Limbaugh?

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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steven787 on 09 November 2008

Rahm Emanuel is associated with the Democratic Leadership Council.

"The Democratic Leadership Council is a non-profit corporation that argues that the United States Democratic Party should shift away from traditionally populist positions... Critics contend that the DLC is effectively a powerful, corporate-financed mouthpiece within the Democratic party that acts to keep Democratic Party candidates and platforms sympathetic to corporate interests and the interests of the wealthiest one percent."

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Democratic-Leadership-Council

Doesn't sound like Obama is staying true to the Socialist platform McCain said he was running on. Sounds like more of the same. I love more of the same with a left lean.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

elprincipe on 10 November 2008
akuma587 said:
elprincipe said:
It's sad, although not unexpected, that a "post-partisan/bipartisan" President-elect Obama has chosen one of the most vicious partisan hacks in the House of Representatives as his chief of staff. What next, Barbara Boxer for EPA? Jim McDermott for Defense? Jim Moran for HUD? I can't wait to see what hypocrisy surfaces next, or on second thought maybe I can.

I guess you also missed that Obama plans on keeping the current Secretary of Defense, at least until Robert Gates chooses to retire.  He wants to voluntarily retire probably within the next year as he feels he is "Too old for this shit" (his own words, he's a Lethal Weapon fan).

Oh wait, you probably never even looked.

 

 

Actually that's not determined yet.  There is some thought he might keep Gates, who after all has done a fantastic job and moved the department from a highly partisan target under Rumsfeld to bipartisan consensus where it should be in most cases.  But this has nothing to do with Emanuel, and I don't appreciate the insipid comment at the end which stupidly and lamely attempts to paint me as a blind partisan.



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elprincipe on 10 November 2008
akuma587 said:
elprincipe said:
akuma587 said:
elprincipe said:
It's sad, although not unexpected, that a "post-partisan/bipartisan" President-elect Obama has chosen one of the most vicious partisan hacks in the House of Representatives as his chief of staff. What next, Barbara Boxer for EPA? Jim McDermott for Defense? Jim Moran for HUD? I can't wait to see what hypocrisy surfaces next, or on second thought maybe I can.

Policy-wise, Mr. Emanuel has fashioned himself as a "New Democrat" in the Clinton mold. He has long been an advocate of governing from the center, reaching across the aisle to seek consensus. As a Clinton adviser, he championed welfare reform and free trade. He's even called for a flatter, less progressive system of taxation. As a congressman, Mr. Emanuel supported the Bush administration's decision to remove Saddam Hussein, though he subsequently criticized the president's management of the war in Iraq.

So I asked Mr. Emanuel if the election of an unabashed liberal like Mr. Obama has made the New Democrat strategy obsolete. Perhaps what we witnessed on Tuesday means that liberalism is ascendant and the U.S. is no longer a center-right nation. "I think the country is incredibly pragmatic," he responded. "Pragmatic and progressive. But you still have to mix and match different approaches to reach your objectives. You have to be flexible."

Doesn't exactly look like he is your rank and file Congressman to me.

 

 

Not to be rude, but assuming all you know of Emanuel is what you read in the article, I know a lot more than you do.

Care to share?  Is this information apparently too incredible for you to share with us members of the lowly masses?  And who did you expect Obama to pick for his Chief of Staff?  Rush Limbaugh?

 

 

Sure I'll share.  I follow Congress for a living and hear what Emanuel has to say all the time.  It's not incredible information, just that you are relying on a single laudatory article (designed to ingratiate the author with the new chief of staff) while I am relying on years of policy positions, press conferences, political power plays, etc.

Who did I expect?  I have to say I didn't really have an expectation, other than hypocrisy, which was sadly fulfilled.



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steven787 on 11 November 2008

So what percentage did he vote against Bush? If it was more than the Republicans, then he was exactly what the voters asked for... change.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

akuma587 on 11 November 2008
elprincipe said:
akuma587 said:
elprincipe said:
It's sad, although not unexpected, that a "post-partisan/bipartisan" President-elect Obama has chosen one of the most vicious partisan hacks in the House of Representatives as his chief of staff. What next, Barbara Boxer for EPA? Jim McDermott for Defense? Jim Moran for HUD? I can't wait to see what hypocrisy surfaces next, or on second thought maybe I can.

I guess you also missed that Obama plans on keeping the current Secretary of Defense, at least until Robert Gates chooses to retire.  He wants to voluntarily retire probably within the next year as he feels he is "Too old for this shit" (his own words, he's a Lethal Weapon fan).

Oh wait, you probably never even looked.

 

 

Actually that's not determined yet.  There is some thought he might keep Gates, who after all has done a fantastic job and moved the department from a highly partisan target under Rumsfeld to bipartisan consensus where it should be in most cases.  But this has nothing to do with Emanuel, and I don't appreciate the insipid comment at the end which stupidly and lamely attempts to paint me as a blind partisan.

Well you did make the assumption that every one one of Obama's other appointments would be a partisan one.  Hell, there is a decent chance he will appoint Colin Powell as the Secretary of the Department of Education.  Its a little early to start pissing in the well.

It has everything to do with your assumption that Obama has turned into a recalcitrant liberal as soon as he got elected though.  If you were aware of that Gates might stay on why did you even mention the Department of Defense?  I mean you are blaming Obama for his intentions when he has already manifested an intention that is counter to the one you are claiming he has.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson