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Dno said:
docholliday said:
@dno
About ffxi, both of my disc drives that burnt out were while playing ffxi. I would reccommend playin on PC if possible. Thing about ffxi on 360 is the disc NEVER stops spinning, and im sure you know how time consuming ffxi can be so think about that disc drive just spinning all that time. I know it doesnt make since, because the game plays off the HDD but for some reason its programmed like that.

 

 o i KNOW that i play ff11 all the time and it was prolly my fault but should a system be defective 4 times? in 3 years

I also play a lot on ps2 and ps3 like bazzar and stuff so its not like i play on 360 ALL the time lol. (i do love ff11 in HD tho!!!)

Yea mab your right tho i should just get the pc version. thanks for your post as you didnt attack me of claim im a liar lol.

It shouldnt fail that much, but unfortunately it happens i guess. How about my 2nd disc drive failed the night I got the WoTG expansion......talk about being pissed. Lucky for me I found a torrent for the PC version of the expansion and installed it :)

 But from what I understand/and read, the disc drive failure is from buildup around the drive that occurs from prolonged use. Its actually fixable from home, but not recommended because it will void your warranty. I'm thinking that because of how ffxi runs(with disc spinning whole time) that it just speeds up the process of wear and tear quite a bit and thats why the multiple failures.

 



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docholliday said:
Dno said:
docholliday said:
@dno
About ffxi, both of my disc drives that burnt out were while playing ffxi. I would reccommend playin on PC if possible. Thing about ffxi on 360 is the disc NEVER stops spinning, and im sure you know how time consuming ffxi can be so think about that disc drive just spinning all that time. I know it doesnt make since, because the game plays off the HDD but for some reason its programmed like that.

 

 o i KNOW that i play ff11 all the time and it was prolly my fault but should a system be defective 4 times? in 3 years

I also play a lot on ps2 and ps3 like bazzar and stuff so its not like i play on 360 ALL the time lol. (i do love ff11 in HD tho!!!)

Yea mab your right tho i should just get the pc version. thanks for your post as you didnt attack me of claim im a liar lol.

It shouldnt fail that much, but unfortunately it happens i guess. How about my 2nd disc drive failed the night I got the WoTG expansion......talk about being pissed. Lucky for me I found a torrent for the PC version of the expansion and installed it :)

 But from what I understand/and read, the disc drive failure is from buildup around the drive that occurs from prolonged use. Its actually fixable from home, but not recommended because it will void your warranty. I'm thinking that because of how ffxi runs(with disc spinning whole time) that it just speeds up the process of wear and tear quite a bit and thats why the multiple failures.

 

oo i see thanks for the info

But to change the subject:

WHAT server are you on and what jobs to you have on 75!!!! i would love it if we was on the same server!!!!!

if you still play that is. you seem to no a lot about ff11 it would be cool to have a friend on this site that shares the same views!!!

 



docholliday said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
@jcp234
I'm on my 5th xbox, does that make me an ignorant sony fanboy?
Am I just making it up?

You say you eat through "faulty" logic, but your take on this is ignorant to say the least. There are sooooo many forums/posts of ppl going through multiple systems cause guess what?......it happens!! I had 3 disc drives burn out, one system that wouldnt read discs the day i got it back from microsoft, and (i swear im not making this one up) one system that RRoD overnight while it wasnt even on. Got up one morning and controller was unsynched and system RRoD on startup. Its awesome that RRoD hasnt happened to you, you really are lucky. BUt dont discredit other ppls testimonies just because you havent seen it happen.

 


Well, I have never questioned a poster with an objective history who has reported an instance of a RROD.

But it seems peculiar when a poster with an obvious bias reports multiple failures. It's just logic. I think any rational person would understand this.

I am sorry if this scares you, but your comment was appreciated.

Thanx.

Ummmm, scares me in what way exactly? Oh and btw its not logical or rational to believe that there is some big conspiracy that ppl make up RRoD situations just to badmouth microsoft.

And think about it, if the OP was trying to discredit the 360, why would he be so nice about it in his post?

There is nothing in his post that even suggests that he has an alternate agenda.

I think your higher education has made you a bit paranoid......

 

Right, because these kind of underhanded manipulative tactics never ever occur in the perfect world of big business, marketing or even government?

There is zero curruption. And of course big companies never pay people to portray themselves as seemingly everyday normal people over the internet to influence others in a way that benefits the company and discredits the competition?

Nope, never happens. I guess videogame software makers do not pay cash to publications to skew reviews either? Nope, everything is just perfect!

Big businesses and Lobbyist do not try to sway government officials! Because we live in perfect land!

You are right! I guess all of my classes on marketing and business ethics were completely useless! And it's made me a paranoid lunatic!!

Thank you for such an insightful and educated post. You are going places.

 



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
@jcp234
I'm on my 5th xbox, does that make me an ignorant sony fanboy?
Am I just making it up?

You say you eat through "faulty" logic, but your take on this is ignorant to say the least. There are sooooo many forums/posts of ppl going through multiple systems cause guess what?......it happens!! I had 3 disc drives burn out, one system that wouldnt read discs the day i got it back from microsoft, and (i swear im not making this one up) one system that RRoD overnight while it wasnt even on. Got up one morning and controller was unsynched and system RRoD on startup. Its awesome that RRoD hasnt happened to you, you really are lucky. BUt dont discredit other ppls testimonies just because you havent seen it happen.

 


Well, I have never questioned a poster with an objective history who has reported an instance of a RROD.

But it seems peculiar when a poster with an obvious bias reports multiple failures. It's just logic. I think any rational person would understand this.

I am sorry if this scares you, but your comment was appreciated.

Thanx.

Ummmm, scares me in what way exactly? Oh and btw its not logical or rational to believe that there is some big conspiracy that ppl make up RRoD situations just to badmouth microsoft.

And think about it, if the OP was trying to discredit the 360, why would he be so nice about it in his post?

There is nothing in his post that even suggests that he has an alternate agenda.

I think your higher education has made you a bit paranoid......

 

Right, because these kind of underhanded manipulative tactics never ever occur in the perfect world of big business, marketing or even government?

There is zero curruption. And of course big companies never pay people to portray themselves as seemingly everyday normal people over the internet to influence others in a way that benefits the company and discredits the competition?

Nope, never happens. I guess videogame software makers do not pay cash to publications to skew reviews either? Nope, everything is just perfect!

Big businesses and Lobbyist do not try to sway government officials! Because we live in perfect land!

You are right! I guess all of my classes on marketing and business ethics were completely useless! And it's made me a paranoid lunatic!!

Thank you for such an insightful and educated post. You are going places.

 

Hell if sony paid me i would do it!!!! but on VG chartz???? lol sony would have wasted money there are bigger sites to do it on lol. and i didnt trash M$ at all.... this RROD or disk drive crash is a fact and its out there.

 



jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
@jcp234
I'm on my 5th xbox, does that make me an ignorant sony fanboy?
Am I just making it up?

You say you eat through "faulty" logic, but your take on this is ignorant to say the least. There are sooooo many forums/posts of ppl going through multiple systems cause guess what?......it happens!! I had 3 disc drives burn out, one system that wouldnt read discs the day i got it back from microsoft, and (i swear im not making this one up) one system that RRoD overnight while it wasnt even on. Got up one morning and controller was unsynched and system RRoD on startup. Its awesome that RRoD hasnt happened to you, you really are lucky. BUt dont discredit other ppls testimonies just because you havent seen it happen.

 


Well, I have never questioned a poster with an objective history who has reported an instance of a RROD.

But it seems peculiar when a poster with an obvious bias reports multiple failures. It's just logic. I think any rational person would understand this.

I am sorry if this scares you, but your comment was appreciated.

Thanx.

Ummmm, scares me in what way exactly? Oh and btw its not logical or rational to believe that there is some big conspiracy that ppl make up RRoD situations just to badmouth microsoft.

And think about it, if the OP was trying to discredit the 360, why would he be so nice about it in his post?

There is nothing in his post that even suggests that he has an alternate agenda.

I think your higher education has made you a bit paranoid......

 

Right, because these kind of underhanded manipulative tactics never ever occur in the perfect world of big business, marketing or even government?

There is zero curruption. And of course big companies never pay people to portray themselves as seemingly everyday normal people over the internet to influence others in a way that benefits the company and discredits the competition?

Nope, never happens. I guess videogame software makers do not pay cash to publications to skew reviews either? Nope, everything is just perfect!

Big businesses and Lobbyist do not try to sway government officials! Because we live in perfect land!

You are right! I guess all of my classes on marketing and business ethics were completely useless! And it's made me a paranoid lunatic!!

Thank you for such an insightful and educated post. You are going places.

 

You feel better now that you got all that off ur chest???

Now not only have you made it a point to bring up your superior education (no i dont have a degree), but you try to insult my lvl of intelligence at the same time?? Come on man, you got to be able to do better than that. We can sit here and argue all damn day about who is "smarter", but the fact is Im far from being stupid or ignorant. I agree that all the things you listed in your post DO happen. There are shady tactics in all business. But to think that Dno made up this post just for the sole purpose of discrediting MS because he is secretly working for sony......well my friend does that really sound logical???

Big companies do shady shit and yes they do some far fetched things to get/stay at the top. But if you go through life thinking everything you see/hear is a lie that "big business" made up, then yes you are paranoid.

Here's a tip, sometimes, just sometimes...things are exactly what they appear to be and thats all. No alternate agenda, no secret big business spy.

 

 



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Dno said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
@jcp234
I'm on my 5th xbox, does that make me an ignorant sony fanboy?
Am I just making it up?

You say you eat through "faulty" logic, but your take on this is ignorant to say the least. There are sooooo many forums/posts of ppl going through multiple systems cause guess what?......it happens!! I had 3 disc drives burn out, one system that wouldnt read discs the day i got it back from microsoft, and (i swear im not making this one up) one system that RRoD overnight while it wasnt even on. Got up one morning and controller was unsynched and system RRoD on startup. Its awesome that RRoD hasnt happened to you, you really are lucky. BUt dont discredit other ppls testimonies just because you havent seen it happen.

 


Well, I have never questioned a poster with an objective history who has reported an instance of a RROD.

But it seems peculiar when a poster with an obvious bias reports multiple failures. It's just logic. I think any rational person would understand this.

I am sorry if this scares you, but your comment was appreciated.

Thanx.

Ummmm, scares me in what way exactly? Oh and btw its not logical or rational to believe that there is some big conspiracy that ppl make up RRoD situations just to badmouth microsoft.

And think about it, if the OP was trying to discredit the 360, why would he be so nice about it in his post?

There is nothing in his post that even suggests that he has an alternate agenda.

I think your higher education has made you a bit paranoid......

 

Right, because these kind of underhanded manipulative tactics never ever occur in the perfect world of big business, marketing or even government?

There is zero curruption. And of course big companies never pay people to portray themselves as seemingly everyday normal people over the internet to influence others in a way that benefits the company and discredits the competition?

Nope, never happens. I guess videogame software makers do not pay cash to publications to skew reviews either? Nope, everything is just perfect!

Big businesses and Lobbyist do not try to sway government officials! Because we live in perfect land!

You are right! I guess all of my classes on marketing and business ethics were completely useless! And it's made me a paranoid lunatic!!

Thank you for such an insightful and educated post. You are going places.

 

Hell if sony paid me i would do it!!!! but on VG chartz???? lol sony would have wasted money there are bigger sites to do it on lol. and i didnt trash M$ at all.... this RROD or disk drive crash is a fact and its out there.

 

 

I never said it did not exist. But anyone could see why a competitor would want to exagerrate the circumstances.

For instance, when the PS3 was not performing as well, I'm sure Microsoft and Nintendo were basking in the widespread premature mass speculation of the Playstation brand demise. Had it not been for the RROD fiasco, I wonder all of the things Microsoft and the 360 could have accomplished more quickly

And bigger than VGChartz? Correct me if I am wrong, but as of late, VGChartz has been getting lots of attention in the media as of late. In fact, it has been referenced in numerous publications.

VGCHartz is practically a gold mine and I am sure big companies are paying attention.



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

@dno
Im on Phoenix server, as far as jobs i have: BLU,SAM,NIN,MNK,WAR,RNG,DRG @ 75. I do mostly LS events now...limbus, nyzul assault, einherjar and whatever other random stuff we get into^^



docholliday said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
jcp234 said:
docholliday said:
@jcp234
I'm on my 5th xbox, does that make me an ignorant sony fanboy?
Am I just making it up?

You say you eat through "faulty" logic, but your take on this is ignorant to say the least. There are sooooo many forums/posts of ppl going through multiple systems cause guess what?......it happens!! I had 3 disc drives burn out, one system that wouldnt read discs the day i got it back from microsoft, and (i swear im not making this one up) one system that RRoD overnight while it wasnt even on. Got up one morning and controller was unsynched and system RRoD on startup. Its awesome that RRoD hasnt happened to you, you really are lucky. BUt dont discredit other ppls testimonies just because you havent seen it happen.

 


Well, I have never questioned a poster with an objective history who has reported an instance of a RROD.

But it seems peculiar when a poster with an obvious bias reports multiple failures. It's just logic. I think any rational person would understand this.

I am sorry if this scares you, but your comment was appreciated.

Thanx.

Ummmm, scares me in what way exactly? Oh and btw its not logical or rational to believe that there is some big conspiracy that ppl make up RRoD situations just to badmouth microsoft.

And think about it, if the OP was trying to discredit the 360, why would he be so nice about it in his post?

There is nothing in his post that even suggests that he has an alternate agenda.

I think your higher education has made you a bit paranoid......

 

Right, because these kind of underhanded manipulative tactics never ever occur in the perfect world of big business, marketing or even government?

There is zero curruption. And of course big companies never pay people to portray themselves as seemingly everyday normal people over the internet to influence others in a way that benefits the company and discredits the competition?

Nope, never happens. I guess videogame software makers do not pay cash to publications to skew reviews either? Nope, everything is just perfect!

Big businesses and Lobbyist do not try to sway government officials! Because we live in perfect land!

You are right! I guess all of my classes on marketing and business ethics were completely useless! And it's made me a paranoid lunatic!!

Thank you for such an insightful and educated post. You are going places.

 

You feel better now that you got all that off ur chest???

Now not only have you made it a point to bring up your superior education (no i dont have a degree), but you try to insult my lvl of intelligence at the same time?? Come on man, you got to be able to do better than that. We can sit here and argue all damn day about who is "smarter", but the fact is Im far from being stupid or ignorant. I agree that all the things you listed in your post DO happen. There are shady tactics in all business. But to think that Dno made up this post just for the sole purpose of discrediting MS because he is secretly working for sony......well my friend does that really sound logical???

Big companies do shady shit and yes they do some far fetched things to get/stay at the top. But if you go through life thinking everything you see/hear is a lie that "big business" made up, then yes you are paranoid.

Here's a tip, sometimes, just sometimes...things are exactly what they appear to be and thats all. No alternate agenda, no secret big business spy.

 

 

Isn't it funny, because if I recall correctly you were the one who communicated that my education somehow made me paranoid?

I initially referenced my education because the creator of the topic implied I was a child. That was the only reason I mentioned it. Then you decided to join the conversation and now I am supposed to be some paranoid lunatic? LOL Any reference to my education after your post...is sarcasm.

Your level of education or ignorance is inconsequential to me, because whether you have more or less of either...your logic is still faulty to me.

I really do not care to address the rest of your post because I find it somewhat cumbersome that you would make a reference to my education, and then when I respond...imply that I somehow think I am superior. My references to education in my response to you is sarcasm.

Bush is educated, he is still an idiot. My senior supervisor is educated, she is an idiot as well.

Once again...thank you for your contributions.

 



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

docholliday said:
@dno
Im on Phoenix server, as far as jobs i have: BLU,SAM,NIN,MNK,WAR,RNG,DRG @ 75. I do mostly LS events now...limbus, nyzul assault, einherjar and whatever other random stuff we get into^^

 

 hahah nice im on Shiva (>.<)

i have pld, rdm,whm,sam,smn, brd on 75

I do everthing. i took a break from my LS to catch up on lvling because i lost my 1st character.

im hume!!



Sorry to hear that bud, we share your pain. I have had a 360 choke on me. The worst part about it was that mine was not under warranty so I actually had to go out there and pay full price for a new one.

Hope your problem is solved quick so you can get back to the Gears/Fable -age.