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I just got the game and when I got the right aiming sensitivity adjusted the way i like it, its just been a blast online. MoH is ok but i like how it take less shots to kill instead of MoH when it takes the whole damn clip plus more to take down a person. I hate the FC shit and that its only 4 players. The online stages are too good for just 4 people. If the story mode had the same framerate as the online that would have been great, but its just ok for me. I give this a 7.5 out of 10.



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spdk1 said:
a new review:

http://games.kikizo.com/reviews/xbox360/quantum-of-solace-p2.asp

they give it a 7

You forgot to look at page 1.  That review is for the 360 version of the QoS, and IGN also gave that version a (double O) 7.

 



rajendra82 said:
peachbuggy said:
Am sick of all the bad reviews given games made by all these snob-core reviewers developers. It seems to be everywhere. Seems as if most of these reviewers developers are ps360 owners and do all they can to make the Wii fail. Then they can come out with their "core games don't sell well on Wii" shit! Am sure they would sell better if it wasn't for these biased reviews developers! Haven't played QOS but am sure worse graphics can be compensated by better control scheme if these games are being compared to their HD counterparts.

 

Fixed it for you.

Before you read my rant below, please understand that the Wii is the only console of this generation I own so far.  Our PS3 was just bought and will not be unboxed until after Christmas.  So I am not some PS360 fanboy trashing the new approach taken by Nintendo.

If you actuallly read the IGN review, you would have realized that they were lamenting the fact that the game could have been fun if made properly.  They say that the game is plagued by unplayable framerates at the worst possible time, sluggish controls, visuals that look decent in some parts and terrible in others, and an overall lack of polish.  I haven't played the game, so I can't say for sure how accurate they are, but if they did see the issues, the game needs to be knocked down in scores appropriately.  Releasing a botched game that does not do everything as well as it should is on the shoulders of the developers.  The same reviewers also slaughtered the Wii port of Brothers in Arms, and they were comparing that game to the PS2 version which certainly was not any better graphically.   They also heaped more praise on the Wii port of the World of Goo than the higher resolution PC version and also loved the reto 8-bit graphics of Mega Man 9.  The reviewers can are capable of seeing past the graphics and enjoy gameplay like you and I do.  The truth of the matter is most Wii games that have come out this year have been terrible.  A Wii fan should be much more pissed about that than the review scores of these terrible games.

Third party developers are obviosly not prioritizing Wii projects, and big N is not stepping up and releasing quality games.  Wii Music is an abomination, and if Animal Crossing also sucks, then all of us Wii owners are in for a terrible holiday season.  The Wii might still sell out over the next few months, but it would be due to the games relased over the last couple of years and early this year.

They just make Shaun White the PS360 version as a superior version than the Wii version because of the obvious reasons cough"graphics"cough and saying you dont like Wii Music and its abonimation and Animal Crossing sucks even you didnt play it only confirmed you're a core game biased, and prefer the ps360 more. I dont buy the you have only Wii owned in your house or something, I too only have a Wii in our home I admit Im complained too much especially on E3 conference but not anymore after the October conference. And I thought the whining stop after the October conference but I guess Im wrong...

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

yushire said:
rajendra82 said:
peachbuggy said:
Am sick of all the bad reviews given games made by all these snob-core reviewers developers. It seems to be everywhere. Seems as if most of these reviewers developers are ps360 owners and do all they can to make the Wii fail. Then they can come out with their "core games don't sell well on Wii" shit! Am sure they would sell better if it wasn't for these biased reviews developers! Haven't played QOS but am sure worse graphics can be compensated by better control scheme if these games are being compared to their HD counterparts.

 

Fixed it for you.

Before you read my rant below, please understand that the Wii is the only console of this generation I own so far.  Our PS3 was just bought and will not be unboxed until after Christmas.  So I am not some PS360 fanboy trashing the new approach taken by Nintendo.

If you actuallly read the IGN review, you would have realized that they were lamenting the fact that the game could have been fun if made properly.  They say that the game is plagued by unplayable framerates at the worst possible time, sluggish controls, visuals that look decent in some parts and terrible in others, and an overall lack of polish.  I haven't played the game, so I can't say for sure how accurate they are, but if they did see the issues, the game needs to be knocked down in scores appropriately.  Releasing a botched game that does not do everything as well as it should is on the shoulders of the developers.  The same reviewers also slaughtered the Wii port of Brothers in Arms, and they were comparing that game to the PS2 version which certainly was not any better graphically.   They also heaped more praise on the Wii port of the World of Goo than the higher resolution PC version and also loved the reto 8-bit graphics of Mega Man 9.  The reviewers can are capable of seeing past the graphics and enjoy gameplay like you and I do.  The truth of the matter is most Wii games that have come out this year have been terrible.  A Wii fan should be much more pissed about that than the review scores of these terrible games.

Third party developers are obviosly not prioritizing Wii projects, and big N is not stepping up and releasing quality games.  Wii Music is an abomination, and if Animal Crossing also sucks, then all of us Wii owners are in for a terrible holiday season.  The Wii might still sell out over the next few months, but it would be due to the games relased over the last couple of years and early this year.

They just make Shaun White the PS360 version as a superior version than the Wii version because of the obvious reasons cough"graphics"cough and saying you dont like Wii Music and its abonimation and Animal Crossing sucks even you didnt play it only confirmed you're a core game biased, and prefer the ps360 more. I dont buy the you have only Wii owned in your house or something, I too only have a Wii in our home I admit Im complained too much especially on E3 conference but not anymore after the October conference. And I thought the whining stop after the October conference but I guess Im wrong...

 

Although it'd be impossible for me to prove otherwise, I'm a Wii and PS2 only user right now, and I got my Wii almost a year before PS2.  I do have PS3 bought, but it's a Christams present, that'll have to wait for a month or so.  The Wii we bough was for both me and my son, and until the early part of this year, it served purpose pretty well.  Nintendo was releasing iupdates to their big franchises on a pretty regular basis.  The morning of the E3 conference, I was all giddy and waiting for the big announcements to come.  At the time I felt like there had not been a lack of news from Nintendo, and that had to be because they were holding everything back to drop some big bomnshells that day.  And then E3 debacle happened, and I realized Nintendo had decided to only pursue the path of maximum profits.  There were only two real 1st party games shown, and while Animal Crossing is one of my son's favorite games, but I was never a fan of the gamecube and DS games, so this one would not be for me.  And Wii Music list of feasures felt all wrong, sounded worse, and looked poinless.  The October conference you mentioned looked better, but those are the games for 2009.  That's almost a year with nothing  that I like except Wario Land, which is OK, but not quite innovative.

 

While I am frustrated an Nintendo, I am even more mad at the third party developers, who never seem to give the Wii projects to their A teams.  Almost always, these are contracted out, and then botched.  If you call me core biased, you bet I am.  I don't necessarily want to see Fallout 3 or Cysis level graphics on the Wii (my PC will do just fine for those), but the original XBox ran Half Life 2, so it should be no sweat for the developers to make something like that for the Wii.  Where are the efforts?  Why does Square Enix not want to do a Kingdom Hearts 3 for the Wii?  There are a handfull of projects that look ggood, but after seeing the ratio of games that look good in the preview, but not so good after release (e.g, FOrce Unleashed, Alone in the Dark, Red Steel), I know that not all of them will end up as good as hoped.  Last generation the leading console got the shovelware and the good games both.  This time around the Wii owners are only getting the crap, and not the good stuff.  The whining will not stop until I actually have several AAA Wii games in my hand.



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amp316 said:
NYANKS said:
spdk1 said:
NYANKS said:

It proabably did get screwed a bit in the review, but I can't say personally. The major issue is the framerate it seems, if it's as bad as IGN said than that is a major reduction in points, they called it "unplayable" at points. But you say it's not THAT bad? If they overexaggerated, I would say a 6 might be in order.

P.S. 900th post! It's over 900! hehe, sorry for the corny joke, but I couldn't wait until 9,000. 

 

If Carnival games can get a 70 from Nintendo power and game party got a 60, this deserves way better.  I think people are comparing it to the ps360 version without taking the Wiis limitations into consideration....

 

 But the Wii's limitations SHOULD bring the score down somewhat, no?  But yes I agree too low, maybe a little overzealous.

Should the 360 and PS3's limitations of having inferior controls bring their score down too then?  Just wondering.

 

 

 Inferior controls are an opinion, graphics are a fact.



rajendra82 said:
yushire said:

They just make Shaun White the PS360 version as a superior version than the Wii version because of the obvious reasons cough"graphics"cough and saying you dont like Wii Music and its abonimation and Animal Crossing sucks even you didnt play it only confirmed you're a core game biased, and prefer the ps360 more. I dont buy the you have only Wii owned in your house or something, I too only have a Wii in our home I admit Im complained too much especially on E3 conference but not anymore after the October conference. And I thought the whining stop after the October conference but I guess Im wrong...

 

Although it'd be impossible for me to prove otherwise, I'm a Wii and PS2 only user right now, and I got my Wii almost a year before PS2.  I do have PS3 bought, but it's a Christams present, that'll have to wait for a month or so.  The Wii we bough was for both me and my son, and until the early part of this year, it served purpose pretty well.  Nintendo was releasing iupdates to their big franchises on a pretty regular basis.  The morning of the E3 conference, I was all giddy and waiting for the big announcements to come.  At the time I felt like there had not been a lack of news from Nintendo, and that had to be because they were holding everything back to drop some big bomnshells that day.  And then E3 debacle happened, and I realized Nintendo had decided to only pursue the path of maximum profits.  There were only two real 1st party games shown, and while Animal Crossing is one of my son's favorite games, but I was never a fan of the gamecube and DS games, so this one would not be for me.  And Wii Music list of feasures felt all wrong, sounded worse, and looked poinless.  The October conference you mentioned looked better, but those are the games for 2009.  That's almost a year with nothing  that I like except Wario Land, which is OK, but not quite innovative.

 

While I am frustrated an Nintendo, I am even more mad at the third party developers, who never seem to give the Wii projects to their A teams.  Almost always, these are contracted out, and then botched.  If you call me core biased, you bet I am.  I don't necessarily want to see Fallout 3 or Cysis level graphics on the Wii (my PC will do just fine for those), but the original XBox ran Half Life 2, so it should be no sweat for the developers to make something like that for the Wii.  Where are the efforts?  Why does Square Enix not want to do a Kingdom Hearts 3 for the Wii?  There are a handfull of projects that look ggood, but after seeing the ratio of games that look good in the preview, but not so good after release (e.g, FOrce Unleashed, Alone in the Dark, Red Steel), I know that not all of them will end up as good as hoped.  Last generation the leading console got the shovelware and the good games both.  This time around the Wii owners are only getting the crap, and not the good stuff.  The whining will not stop until I actually have several AAA Wii games in my hand.

Do you even not know that the Wii isnt barely 2 years old? and we knew even with any system that flood of AAA games comes out in its three years of console's lifetime. If you wait a year more then you have the games you want on the Wii but we knew that 2 years of console's lifetime the games are more experimental and 3rd parties just test the console if there games sells or not.

PS2 when released became popular not because of the launched games comes out on the system but because its a cheap DVD player, just watch videos of it on play value and youtube if you dont believe me. The PS2 became a game system after its three years since its released... you should just wait more

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

rajendra82 said:
spdk1 said:
a new review:

http://games.kikizo.com/reviews/xbox360/quantum-of-solace-p2.asp

they give it a 7

You forgot to look at page 1.  That review is for the 360 version of the QoS, and IGN also gave that version a (double O) 7.

 

 

oops, thats odd, thats actually a review IGN linked to...my bad



here's what Gamefaqs has to say:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=947081&topic=46396732



spdk1 said:
here's what Gamefaqs has to say:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=947081&topic=46396732

 

 Which is a sad thing because every gamer still believes reviewers and not even try to rent the game bercause of the reviews it gets even in reality it isnt bad as perceive it to be.

BTW can you make a video you playing this game online or in splitscreen? I have yet to see someone playing this game on a splitscreen...



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg