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DMeisterJ said:
trestres said:
senortaco said:
trestres said:
Wii will be at 45 million WW this year, even when it's almost dead in Japan. America and Europe are making it possible.

 

 lol Oh Trestres...

 

What's so funny about that? Wanna make a bet?

 

I think the "lol" was the Wii being dead in Japan.

^^^^This.

Trestres will have you thinking that the Wii was the console with the consisently lowest sales in Japan, lol. I know i have to always check the numbers just to know I'm not crazy.

 

@ Trestres: You have to admit that the Wii console sales have been consisent without alot of MAJOR releases. When that number starts dropping under 20k then I would be worried. With the Holidays and titles coming in December it'll be back to outselling the comp 3:1. That we can bet on. =D

 



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Squilliam said:
trestres said:
@DMJ: But thats almost true nowadays. IMO console gaming is dead in Japan.

In terms of the bread and butter console sales we talk about since DS/PSP are hardly talked about in the general forums you're right.

Japan is behind markets like the U.K this generation in terms of sales importance.

 

 

 I agree with you on this. I think it's what the developers in Japan are concerned with and why Nintendo turned in the direction it did.

I don't think it's something that can be changed overnight either...



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@senortaco: I know Wii will outsell the competition in Japan, theres no doubt about it. The thing is it isnt moving any SW at all, thats really worrying. We shall see if devs are up to supporting it with better games next year, Nintendo counted. If not, then theres nothing that will make the Wii get better, in fact it could be worse next year.



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@trestres, it's difficult to sell software when your system doesn't have any software, Wii has had nothing but niche games being released for a long time now.



trestres said:
@senortaco: I know Wii will outsell the competition in Japan, theres no doubt about it. The thing is it isnt moving any SW at all, thats really worrying. We shall see if devs are up to supporting it with better games next year, Nintendo counted. If not, then theres nothing that will make the Wii get better, in fact it could be worse next year.

 

Other then Handheld NO 7th gen CONSOLE is selling software, in fact the DS/Wii generally sale the most in that region. 

Also there are big games coming...Monster Hunters 3, Tatsunoko -v- Capcom, Any Marvelous?

Also I think TvsC comes out in December of this year.

...I don't think it's Japan devs we need to worry about more so American and Europe, and hoping their devs will follow the lead. =)



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off topic sidenote: Microsoft is definitely spending on ads right now, lol. They are taking over I swear!

EDIT: I just wanted to add the upcoming game list for Japan side this post is off topic anyways...

http://wii.ign.com/index/release.html?constraint.eq.game.locale=ja



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this is for all the xbox360 fanboys and ps3fanbosy. i always here this stupid saying from people about a particular system for a particular game when ever a game comes out. examples are "this week is the most important week for this ps3 or the xbox360." "when LBP comes out will the turning point for ps3." didn't u guys say that when msg4 came out oh wait when final fantasy comes out that will be the week right that is the most important week wait it is when gears comes out no wait when resistance comes out thats the week. we heard the same bs each and everyday when a big title gets announced especially when gta4 came out was the week but look it didn't happen and it WILL NEVER HAPPEN for the xbox360 and the Ps3. xbox is selling at 199 and a lot of people was saying this will be it this is the day that xbox becomes #1 and it is still getting its ass handed to them. both the xbox and ps3 are getting DPed by nintendos two systems.

what u are forgetting to realize is that every week of every year and each day of every year is the most important. it ain't about a particular week u can't think that way ur thinking the same way xbox and ps3 are thinking and look at them they are pathetic. pathetic because they have a superior systems and getting their ass kicked because they followed the same path of failure it is sad really. they thought that consumers will pay that much money for a system and punches out beautiful looking graphics but when it is all said a done people care about fun and different experience in using their valuable quality of time and they could not change with the time and that is why nintendo is winning. nintendo knows that it aint about a particular group that they had to appeal to they went back to the basics and made games fun games that appeal to everyone they made games for gamers.



I feel like laughing at the Sony fans for believing LBP would spike up PS3 sales in America, but then there're also the changes that can come later when things become more apparent to VG Chartz. I guess I'll hold off making fun of them if the numbers hold true.

 

Admittedly, I wouldn't be jabbing LBP for this; it's an awesome game that has even gotten my former roommate enthralled. He's a core 360/Nintendo fanboy who is questioning his sanity because of the awesomeness of LBP. I simply would be jabbing Sony and any fanboys I felt have been smug in the past.



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Omg Wii is huge cant even imagine holiday sales, Ds great , 360 good, ps3 good, psp ok.



 

Groucho said:

I think you need to read what I said a little closer. =)

And, by Nintendo's own account, they won't be able to put enough units on store shelves to beat 41 million units before Jan 1st.  Nintendo currently supplies a little less than 600K units/week (2.4mil/month) -- there are 9 weeks (two months -- i.e. 4.8 million units, assuming Nintendo's production was at 2.4mil a couple months back where, in terms of time, the supply chain begins for current on-shelf units).  With current VGC data, that means that Nintendo cannot even have put enough units in the supply chain to hit the 41 mil mark by Jan 1st, unless they have some mighty big stockpiles.

We saw last year a huuuge jump just before the end of December, as the full Nintendo supply train unloaded itself onto store shelves just as the end of December hit.  I don't believe we will see such a leap this year (not in terms of proportion, anyway), due to the Wiis eternal popularity, and the inability of Nintendo to actually create a stockpile situation this year (because they have been doing a good job keeping the Wiis coming all year, and haven't created the issues that caused last year's jump), given the huge demand (weekly demand is up something like 75% over last year).

Only time will tell if the Nintendo elves are actually making the 3-4 million / month to hit the numbers you're looking for, but tell us in public statements that they are cranking out 2.4 mil/month instead.  Those sneaky business types, wanting to "surprise" the stockholders.  Stockholders love misinformation, you know.  ;)

 

Yes stockholders hate to be misinformed. So how do you reconcile your theory with Nintendo's announcement to their stockholders that as of March 31st 2009 51million units will have been shipped to retail?

 

Subtract 2.4 million per month and you will see that they most certainly have the stock to get 43.8 million units to retail by December 31 2008. If the demand exists, they almost certainly will use the same strategy as last year and rush delivery of January stock so it arrives in December; if there is the demand, Nintendo can almost certainly sell 45 million by the end of the year.

 

The thing you seem to be missing in your calculations is that Nintendo has never sold 2.4 million wiis in a month since they announced production had been upped to that. All those units aren't just lost to the wind, they have been stockpiled so they can flood the market this Christmas.

 

If the wii is sold out everywhere this Xmas expect the frontpage of VGC to say at least 45 million on Jan 1.