^ One of the most religious developed nations. At least, that is in regards to the frequency that people attend religious meetings. The only nations that are equal or surpass us are Malta, Ireland, Greece, and possibly Italy...those are simply guesses.
akuma587 said:
So why should your faith affect legislation then when you are not losing any rights because of that legislation?
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in the end for this country to function it shouldnt b/c its a slippery slope for either the government or religion t step on each others toes
it just seems that its part of something religion has worked so hard to establish is being given away with out their say
| Veggie said: America is one of the most religious countries in the world. |
yes and it does influnce but it is not based on that fact, if it were our country would be something akin to many of the mulsim naiton
| TheRealMafoo said: The problem is the word marriage has two meanings. To religious people, it's a union before god. To a government, it's a contract representing two people who now share ownership. Separate them. and we no longer have a problem. Stop calling the government version marriage. |
One of the rare times I completely agree with mafoo.
I thought church and state were supposed to be separated. Why is that not the case here?
mesoteto said:
in the end for this country to function it shouldnt b/c its a slippery slope for either the government or religion t step on each others toes
it just seems that its part of something religion has worked so hard to establish is being given away with out their say
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Once again, marriage existed long before Christianity did. Christianity in no way shape or form owns marriage, and if Christianity was gone tomorrow, marriage would still be here.
You seem to think that the two are inseperable.
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mesoteto said:
yes and it does influnce but it is not based on that fact, if it were our country would be something akin to many of the mulsim naiton |
Someone should remind you of that then.
Marriage has never been between a man and a woman...it was not that way in the Bible and in many ancient societies. Marriage evolved from essentially a concubinage, to a man and woman, and now...whatever society accepts. I know that is fairly simplistic, but it communicates my point.
i am not claiming Christianity is the only one responsible for marriage
the idea of marriage has been around and been called many different things
however what is being sought here isn't the ideal
its the actual act of marriage developed by the various faiths, you cant seem to separate that fact
it does boil down to my original point, give them the same legal rights as the marriage of a man and woman get but reserve marriage for those willing to do it before god in some form or another
HappySqurriel said:
Are you really unaware of the fact that that used to happen? I think you need to read more history, I think you should start by reading about Henry VIII of England.
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Catherine of Aragon was not barren, she had many pregnancies but a lot of stillborn babies. She had a girl (Mary) and a boy who only lived a month or two.
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What if I was part of a religion that thought gay marriage was fine, and we called it marriage?
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