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appolose said:
konnichiwa said:
Whoa two pages and only 10 posts? A lot get banned lately.

 

I'd like to see the total casualties for the day, somehow.

 

 Woeps =p.  It is my fault somehow it only show 10 posts a page.  I must did something wrong.






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akuma587 said:
Absolutely, I think that is one of the reasons the Republican Party is in the position it is now, because it got too drunk on its own power. Lets hope the Democrats can do better. At least some of the things the Democrats are advocating actually need to get done, such as energy reform and healthcare reform.

 

While I'm hoping they get power-drunk too, I see your point :)



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I knew Obama was gonna win. Its all about perception because most voters do not actually look at, or care for that matter, about the candidate's real platform.

The ignorant see Obama as a socialist or even a terrorist, and on the other spectrum, they see McCain as a third Bush term. Obama is seen as change and hope, even if his policies have almost no change in them than the usual democrat.

But its about perception. McCain is the old, Obama the new and there was nothing that couldve stopped that. Just walking around my college I could see that. I bet if you went to the average voter and asked what they knew about their candidate, they wouldnt know anything except what was on their signs. This goes for both sides.

It really is sad when a McCain supporter like myself knows more about Obama's platform than his supporters, but then again its the same the other way around.

Here's to Obama though, I hope to see if he can actually fix the many problems that America has.



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The loyal supporters of McCain must be feeling heaps of Pain. So you all blame Palin for the defeat now? Palin least gave McCain a chance of picking up a few states. I predicted a clean sweep in all states for Obama.

It was an inevitable Obama victory and the election had already been decided 6 months ago.



Bursche said:
I knew Obama was gonna win. Its all about perception because most voters do not actually look at, or care for that matter, about the candidate's real platform.

The ignorant see Obama as a socialist or even a terrorist, and on the other spectrum, they see McCain as a third Bush term. Obama is seen as change and hope, even if his policies have almost no change in them than the usual democrat.

But its about perception. McCain is the old, Obama the new and there was nothing that couldve stopped that. Just walking around my college I could see that. I bet if you went to the average voter and asked what they knew about their candidate, they wouldnt know anything except what was on their signs. This goes for both sides.

It really is sad when a McCain supporter like myself knows more about Obama's platform than his supporters, but then again its the same the other way around.

Here's to Obama though, I hope to see if he can actually fix the many problems that America has.

 

Heh, you can say that again!

I'm really not worried though... Obama will do well even though I don't agree with most of his policies.  He'll most likely shift towards the center of the political spectrum now that he's in office because although the Dems now have the majority control of the government, they didn't manage to win a 60 seat majority in the Senate which would have basically rendered them fillibuster proof.  So pushing a left-wing agenda right out of the gate is something they're gonna want to avoid, lest then alienate virtually half the country right off the bat.

There's only 2 things that concern me now... how he handles foreign affairs and whether or not he pushes towards more social policies like universal healthcare and the so-called "tax-cuts for 95% of Americans" which is basically redistributing wealth without actually creating new wealth.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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numonex said:
The loyal supporters of McCain must be feeling heaps of Pain. So you all blame Palin for the defeat now? Palin least gave McCain a chance of picking up a few states. I predicted a clean sweep in all states for Obama.

It was an inevitable Obama victory and the election had already been decided 6 months weeks ago.

 

Fixed! 

After the whole "economic crisis"  played out, team Obama, aka "the media" managed to convince the majority of Americans that Bush was to blame for this whole mess, and not the government in general, specifically some senate Democrats that helped push for policies that led to the sub-prime mortgage crisis and melt downs on Wall Street.  They all made McCain look like some erratic and incompetent guy who had no clue what to do, when in reality NOBODY had any idea what the hell to do, not even Alan Greenspan or the Secretary of the Treasury.  Hence the rush to push that $700 billion bailout to make it seem like they were doing something when in reality it did nothing to calm the markets or help out the average American in their daily lives.

And I don't blame Palin at all... she made this a race... otherwise every state would be blue and we'd be living in the USSA... United Socialist States of America.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

the better candidate won because, if were honest with ourselves, McCain would not have changed enough to actually benefit the country the way Obama hopefully will.



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Cueil said:
akuma587 said:
Cueil said:
akuma587 said:
Cueil said:
I dislike things being to one sided... nothing good comes from any party having to much power

Did you vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004?

 

 

no... I voted  Gore in 2000 and it didn't matter who I voted for in 04... both of them were completely insane... I'd vote McCain, but I moved recently and I'm not qualified to vote yet and I'm not spending money to drive 200 miles to vote.

Fair enough, you are sticking to your principles and I respect that.

 

I don't think people see things my way to much.  The point of our government is to balance power, but it's delecate and if Dems get to much power they'll just throw us into the shit on the other side of the fence.  I hope Obama shows restraint and remembers that he got there from people who don't always see things on the far side, but more in the middle.  Work for the people and not just for your own ideas... that's the crap we've been suffering in for the past 8 years... that's what I feel.

I completely agree with you. That's why I think that the budget was the best under Clinton (creating surpluses and minimzing the impact on national debt). However, I think both sides have focused too much on keeping their bases and we have a civil war of ideologies. For example, I don't think that Congress is really able to react in a way to the rapidity of the way things change in the world when there is utter gridlock because party is put first. I really wish there were more centrist candidates from both sides, which would make "going across the aisle" all the easier or we did some "socialist" (joke) campaign financing and eradicated parties entirely and voted on issues. Unfortunately, I doubt the average voter would read them all.

 



Ah, what a good night sleep that just was! I had such a wonderful dream, and the world just feels so good to me this morning... oh, right.
Rats, we're out of Zoloft.



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I give McClain massive respect. He gave a awesome speech before submitting his defeat to Obama. He gave massive respect and it did bring tears to my mom's eyes and others in my household. McClain promised a lot, but a lot feared his comparsion to Bush.

Now that its over, McClain showed his maturity and agreed with Obama that he can make U.S. better.

And just a side note. When McClain annouced his defeat in Arizona notice everyone in that crowd was booing Obama and didn't agree but when Obama mentioned in his speech McClain's name. Everyone stood up and gave a mature side and clapped for McClain.