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Onyxmeth said:
bouzane said:
I'm amazed by the people who are requesting that PC/360 multi-platform titles should be counted. A game being exclusive means that you must purchase the system to enjoy the game. I did not have to use a 360 to play Gears of War, Bioshock and Mass Effect. Multi-platform games are not exclusive games! I don't own a 360 and few of my friends do yet I get to enjoy the vast majority of its offerings, the PC has effectively eliminated my need for the 360.

An arcade machine negates the need to call BlazBlue and Time Crisis 4 PS3 exclusives, but that doesn't make an arcade cabinet a console. I understand your point, but know that it isn't a matter of "PCs not counting" or "Microsoft owns Windows". It's a matter of doing a proper comparison between two consoles, or adding in a third entrant(PC). A comparison doesn't need to conform to outside stipulations even if they reflect the real world better. If it's a 360 vs. PS3 comparison, then compare them against eachother. If it's a 360 vs. PS3 vs. PC comparison, then compare all of them against eachother. This is how comparisons work all day long.

 

If a list of PC exclusives would need to be included to remove multi-platform titles from the list of exclusive games then I think that would be the most sensible course of action. For people who own multiple gaming systems looking for a list of exclusive content (myself included) a list of games that are truly exclusive is more useful and informative. I guess this is up to the OP though.



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shio said:
jingho said:
take a look at the sales of the common games between 360 and pc
you'll see why 360/pc exclusive practically means 360 exclusive

Some sell better on 360 than PC. But there are alot of them that sell greater on PC, and PC gives a higher profit margin per copy than Xbox 360.

Anyway, retail is only 30% of PC's entire revenue, and that percentage is decreasing more and more. PC is a online juggernaut.

 

a lot of great titles like Gears of War and COD4 all got much much better sales on 360 than PC

if you are trying to say that a lot of games sell better on PC, you better suggest some examples that we are all familiar with

by the way, many people here saying that pc gives them no need for a 360, they should say that if they want to miss great titles like Gears of War 2, fable2, Halo3 and Star Ocean 4, or they can wait until some years after these great games finally find their ways to PC, or they should just simply say that these 360-exclusive games are all rubbish and not worth buying at all.

 

 



bouzane said:
Garnett said:
bouzane said:
Garnett said:
ElectroRocker said:
I removed games that coming to ps3 and pc too
and if its on 2 plattforms = not exclusive because 2 plattforms
1 plattform = exclusive
will xbots never understand that?

I can see your a fanboy of the PS3 and are trying to make the PS3 exclusive list bigger than the 360,Well if you want to fool yourself fine but dont try to fool others.

 

PC is not in competition with Consoles,you unjustly removed 360 exclusives,i can see you just made the account,im guess your other one was banned lmao..

 

Have fun trolling.

 

 

You appear to be the worst fanboy here. I love it how the insecure 360 fanboys claim that the PC does not compete with consoles, I hate to break it to you but it does. When a game comes out on the PC and a console, I try to buy it for the PC. That's a sale lost for the console and the 360's shared library with the PC has prevented me from buying the 360. If the games that you claim are exclusive really were, I'd buy a 360 tomorrow. The thing is, games available on both a console and the PC aren't exclusive and including them on this list would be foolish.

 

Erm,What makes a PC differnet from Console?games for WINDOWS,and xbox 360 is MICROSOFT which owns WINDOWS,Therefore they should not compete,Thats like saying PS2 is against PS3 its plain dumb..

 

 

The point of an exclusive game is that I have to purchase the system that the game is exclusive on to be able to play it. The 360 having few true exclusives means that I do not purchase the 360. We, as gamers, are comparing gaming systems and not the corporations which own said OS / gaming systems. Comparing the PS3 and 360's exclusive games is a way of comparing the systems, not what effect it has on the companies which own them.

But the point is that its own by MS,thats the fact,you cannot get rid of that,taking exclusives away from 360 for PC is just stupid when they both are owned by MS,Thats like saying"WELL GTA SA IS XBOX 360 EXCLUSIVE" then someone says"BUT ITS ON PS2" then i say " NO NO NO ITS EXCLUSIVE,A NEXT GEN EXCLUSVE"(not that the game is exclusive but its the only last gen game coming to XBA and not PSN)

 

 



JaggedSac said:
shio said:
jingho said:
take a look at the sales of the common games between 360 and pc
you'll see why 360/pc exclusive practically means 360 exclusive

Some sell better on 360 than PC. But there are alot of them that sell greater on PC, and PC gives a higher profit margin per copy than Xbox 360.

Anyway, retail is only 30% of PC's entire revenue, and that percentage is decreasing more and more. PC is a online juggernaut.

 

Holy crap where did you get that 70% number?  That has to be counting like online poker, online subscriptions, and stuff like that.

I got it from PCGA's Horizon Report. Here's the PC's 2007 worldwide revenue breakdown if you're interested:

Total 2007 PC revenue: $10.7 Billions

Online: $4.8 Billions (subscriptions, in-game transactions)
Retail: $3 Billions
Digital Distribution: $2 Billions
Advertisement: $800 Millions

 



shio said:
JaggedSac said:

 

Holy crap where did you get that 70% number?  That has to be counting like online poker, online subscriptions, and stuff like that.

I got it from PCGA's Horizon Report. Here's the PC's 2007 worldwide revenue breakdown if you're interested:

Total 2007 PC revenue: $10.7 Billions

Online: $4.8 Billions (subscriptions, in-game transactions)
Retail: $3 Billions
Digital Distribution: $2 Billions
Advertisement: $800 Millions

 

Well, I was right for the most part.  The real information here is $3 billion at retail and $2 billion in DD.  Very good numbers for DD though.  Could be about even by now though maybe?

 



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@Garnett

Who cares if Microsoft owns Windows? This isn't Microsoft versus Sony, this PS3 versus 360. I thought we were comparing what games I would need to own a 360 to play versus what games I would need to own a PS3 to play. That's the point of exclusive games right? It has nothing to do with corporations, it has to do with reasons for a guy like me to drive down to Wal-Mart to buy a 360. To be able to play great games that are available nowhere else. Is discussing game systems and games about companies and profits? I only care about the platforms I need to play the games I want, nothing else.



bouzane said:
Onyxmeth said:
bouzane said:
I'm amazed by the people who are requesting that PC/360 multi-platform titles should be counted. A game being exclusive means that you must purchase the system to enjoy the game. I did not have to use a 360 to play Gears of War, Bioshock and Mass Effect. Multi-platform games are not exclusive games! I don't own a 360 and few of my friends do yet I get to enjoy the vast majority of its offerings, the PC has effectively eliminated my need for the 360.

An arcade machine negates the need to call BlazBlue and Time Crisis 4 PS3 exclusives, but that doesn't make an arcade cabinet a console. I understand your point, but know that it isn't a matter of "PCs not counting" or "Microsoft owns Windows". It's a matter of doing a proper comparison between two consoles, or adding in a third entrant(PC). A comparison doesn't need to conform to outside stipulations even if they reflect the real world better. If it's a 360 vs. PS3 comparison, then compare them against eachother. If it's a 360 vs. PS3 vs. PC comparison, then compare all of them against eachother. This is how comparisons work all day long.

 

If a list of PC exclusives would need to be included to remove multi-platform titles from the list of exclusive games then I think that would be the most sensible course of action. For people who own multiple gaming systems looking for a list of exclusive content (myself included) a list of games that are truly exclusive is more useful and informative. I guess this is up to the OP though.

I don't think you quite understand what I'm saying, but you're on the right track. My point to the OP was, when you do a direct comparison, you don't put exclusives in comparison to the real world, you put exclusives that are within the range of the comparison. The OP can go either way, which is drop PC games entirely, or put the PC under the microscope also, and he would be correct. Here's another example.

A person asks us on the forum whether he should get Resistance 2 or Gears of War 2. He wants a list of pros from each game to help make his decision. Do you list the features one has over the other, or do you only list the features that are also not present in COD4, Far Cry 2 and plenty of other games the OP never asked about? In my opinion, a direct comparison should stay within the field of the comparison always.

You also are under the impression that this list should cater to multiple console owners. This list shouldn't cater to anyone because you can't predict what's everyone's situation is coming into this thread. One person may own no consoles. Another may own a PS3 and PC. The next guy is simply a PC owner, etc. etc. You can't guess what is going to be most helpful, so in the end, try to help as many as you can. I think the OP has the right idea by adding in the shared PC releases but also labeling them as such. That way there is more info, and those not interested in the shared PC games can see which are which and can ignore them.

 



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jingho said:
shio said:
jingho said:
take a look at the sales of the common games between 360 and pc
you'll see why 360/pc exclusive practically means 360 exclusive

Some sell better on 360 than PC. But there are alot of them that sell greater on PC, and PC gives a higher profit margin per copy than Xbox 360.

Anyway, retail is only 30% of PC's entire revenue, and that percentage is decreasing more and more. PC is a online juggernaut.

 

a lot of great titles like Gears of War and COD4 all got much much better sales on 360 than PC

if you are trying to say that a lot of games sell better on PC, you better suggest some examples that we are all familiar with

by the way, many people here saying that pc gives them no need for a 360, they should say that if they want to miss great titles like Gears of War 2, fable2, Halo3 and Star Ocean 4, or they can wait until some years after these great games finally find their ways to PC, or they should just simply say that these 360-exclusive games are all rubbish and not worth buying at all.

Gears of War came out a full year after the 360's release and worst of all, it was directly associated with GFW. It had all the signs for low sales.

As for COD4, I still keep defending that the PC version is doing better than Xbox 360's. Hell, I even believe it's doing better than both PS3/360 combined. COD4 PC is still seen in several PC Top10 charts, and is still selling like crack in Digital Distribution (currently 8th in Steam Topsellers) and hasn't even dropped price.

Unless you have al platforms, you will always lose good exclusives. The good thing about PC is that it has way more good exclusives than any other platform.

 



bouzane said:
@Garnett

Who cares if Microsoft owns Windows? This isn't Microsoft versus Sony, this PS3 versus 360. I thought we were comparing what games I would need to own a 360 to play versus what games I would need to own a PS3 to play. That's the point of exclusive games right? It has nothing to do with corporations, it has to do with reasons for a guy like me to drive down to Wal-Mart to buy a 360. To be able to play great games that are available nowhere else. Is discussing game systems and games about companies and profits? I only care about the platforms I need to play the games I want, nothing else.

 

Who cares?I dont care but its a fact that MS owns Windows and games are made for WINDOWS,therefore games are still for MS,They are MS Exclusives.

 

Thats why alot of 360 games should be added,the fact that PC is a MS Platform,much like PS2 is still a Sony platform...

But ya your right im wrong,i apologize.

 

also how would the average joe know if his computer can run the game and could end up wasting 50$ when he can easly get the game for xbox 360.



I made my decision, i wont include 360/pc games in that list because theire coming out on 2 different plattforms and this list is a exclusive only list.

and now
BACK TO F***ING TOPIC!
discuss the lists....