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konnichiwa on 03 November 2008
MrBubbles said:
ManusJustus said:
TheRealMafoo said:
The only way a World War is going to happen, is if the US lost its military might.

The US will probably lose its military might when it loses its economic might.  Economists predict that China's economy will surpass that of the United States by 2050, so their military will surpass us around that time.  The Chinese have been great throught history though, hardly attacking other countries and always more concered about their peace and defense.

 

too bad for china it wont be around then.  the comments about a peaceful china are amusing too.

What is amusing about that? Sjeez you are horrible.

Atleast they don't rape half their population ;....

 






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Kasz216 on 03 November 2008
konnichiwa said:
MrBubbles said:
ManusJustus said:
TheRealMafoo said:
The only way a World War is going to happen, is if the US lost its military might.

The US will probably lose its military might when it loses its economic might.  Economists predict that China's economy will surpass that of the United States by 2050, so their military will surpass us around that time.  The Chinese have been great throught history though, hardly attacking other countries and always more concered about their peace and defense.

 

too bad for china it wont be around then.  the comments about a peaceful china are amusing too.

What is amusing about that? Sjeez you are horrible.

Atleast they don't rape half their population ;....

 

Who rapes half their population?

Even in places like the Sudan i don't think it's 50....

 



Jackson50 on 03 November 2008
konnichiwa said:What is amusing about that? Sjeez you are horrible. Atleast they don't rape half their population ;....

Was that insult directed at the Japanese in regards to the Rape of Nanking? Otherwise, that sentiment bewilders me. 



The Ghost of RubangB on 03 November 2008

konnichiwa could be talking about the way people treat women, but that's worldwide, so I'm not sure what he meant.



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ManusJustus on 03 November 2008
Kasz216 said:
ManusJustus said:

The US will probably lose its military might when it loses its economic might.  Economists predict that China's economy will surpass that of the United States by 2050, so their military will surpass us around that time.  The Chinese have been great throught history though, hardly attacking other countries and always more concered about their peace and defense.

Are these the same economists who couldn't see far enough ahead in the future to stop the current financial crisis?

Seriously, such projections are just... downright silly.  Who knows what could happen during then.  I mean what's going to happen to China's government while all this economic progress is happening?
No, its actually just common sense since China's GDP grows at 10 percent a year and USA grows at 2 percent, not to mention that they have four times as many people.  Where any opinions could come in would be if or how China's lower GDP per capita in 2050 has an affect on its military efficiency.

Mr Bubbles said:

too bad for china it wont be around then.  the comments about a peaceful china are amusing too

What and What?



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Kasz216 on 03 November 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:
ManusJustus said:

The US will probably lose its military might when it loses its economic might.  Economists predict that China's economy will surpass that of the United States by 2050, so their military will surpass us around that time.  The Chinese have been great throught history though, hardly attacking other countries and always more concered about their peace and defense.

Are these the same economists who couldn't see far enough ahead in the future to stop the current financial crisis?

Seriously, such projections are just... downright silly.  Who knows what could happen during then.  I mean what's going to happen to China's government while all this economic progress is happening?
No, its actually just common sense since China's GDP grows at 10 percent a year and USA grows at 2 percent, not to mention that they have four times as many people.  Where any opinions could come in would be if or how China's lower GDP per capita in 2050 has an affect on its military efficiency.

Mr Bubbles said:

too bad for china it wont be around then.  the comments about a peaceful china are amusing too

What and What?

Cause GDP growth is certaintly steady... and nothing could effect China's growth in the next oh... 42 years.

It's going to grow a steady 10% every year and nothing is going to happen.

That's a real logical assumption.



konnichiwa on 03 November 2008
Kasz216 said:
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:
ManusJustus said:

The US will probably lose its military might when it loses its economic might.  Economists predict that China's economy will surpass that of the United States by 2050, so their military will surpass us around that time.  The Chinese have been great throught history though, hardly attacking other countries and always more concered about their peace and defense.

Are these the same economists who couldn't see far enough ahead in the future to stop the current financial crisis?

Seriously, such projections are just... downright silly.  Who knows what could happen during then.  I mean what's going to happen to China's government while all this economic progress is happening?
No, its actually just common sense since China's GDP grows at 10 percent a year and USA grows at 2 percent, not to mention that they have four times as many people.  Where any opinions could come in would be if or how China's lower GDP per capita in 2050 has an affect on its military efficiency.

Mr Bubbles said:

too bad for china it wont be around then.  the comments about a peaceful china are amusing too

What and What?

Cause GDP growth is certaintly steady... and nothing could effect China's growth in the next oh... 42 years.

It's going to grow a steady 10% every year and nothing is going to happen.

Kasz216 is right.  Their is only one thing though the growth of China is shifting from region to region. Ten years ago it was the east of China that had all the investments and the all the foreign factories.  Today a lot of them are closing and move more to the West...;  If it goes on like now it will for sure take another 20 years before foreign companies will leave China.

Anyway...India is going to surpass China for sure;

 






MrBubbles on 03 November 2008
ManusJustus said:

Mr Bubbles said:

too bad for china it wont be around then.  the comments about a peaceful china are amusing too

What and What?

 

i can see why you might be a bit confused by the first part...but the second part is pretty clear.



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ManusJustus on 03 November 2008
Kasz216 said:

Cause GDP growth is certaintly steady... and nothing could effect China's growth in the next oh... 42 years.

It's going to grow a steady 10% every year and nothing is going to happen.

GDP growth is pretty steady and predictable, especially in comparison with the rest of the world.  China has been easily beating the United States in GDP growth since 1976 (if not before), and those were unsteady times. 

Dont you think that economists would have taken China's GDP growth slowing down overtime as it increases?  Do you think that such as simple factor could be over looked by such experts?  Economists aren't that simple minded, nor am I and thats why I said 2050 instead of 2040 that more optimistic (or pessimistic) prediction would say.

Its not that difficult to realize China surpassing the USA, especially when you consider that China has three or four times as many people and its much easier to grow at lower GDP per capita rates.  As I mentioned before, the only point you have is that China's military efficiency would be questionable when China has $15,000 GDP per capita and the United States has $50,000 per capita.

http://www.chinability.com/GDP.htm



Kasz216 on 03 November 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

Cause GDP growth is certaintly steady... and nothing could effect China's growth in the next oh... 42 years.

It's going to grow a steady 10% every year and nothing is going to happen.

GDP growth is pretty steady, especially in comparison with the rest of the world.  China has been easily beating the United States in GDP growth since 1976 (if not before), and those were unsteady times.  I

Its not that difficult to realize China surpassing the USA, especially when you consider that China has four times as many people and its much easier to grow at lower GDP per capita rates.  As I mentioned before, the only point you have is that China's military efficiency would be questionable when China has $15,000 GDP per capita and the United States has $60,000 per capita.

http://www.chinability.com/GDP.htm

There is plenty you aren't taking into consideration with that, but it's fine... you've got like 48 years to be proven wrong 

Including rising competition from other areas... rise of discontent among the "new rich"... etc.