Yea, I know what me meant...

Being that he only directed that argument my direction, I figured he pegged me as a Republican Christian. Akuma and Ghost are so far down the liberal path it's pathetic. Hell, neither one of them even like this country. Akuma would far rather live in France, and Ghost only likes 1 state in the US (California), yet I am the one with black and white views.

It's really strange that I am the most religious one, I'm jew-ish (dammit used the ish joke two posts in a row)... Actually, I don't know about Akuma.

If you're Libertarian, aren't you as liberal as me on the social scale?  How is that not pathetic?

I'll like other states when they do something cool, but right now California is our capital for film, music, and technology.

@steven, I'm pretty sure akuma's Christian, but he hates the radical right, and I'm atheist as all hell.

Every one knows you're an atheist... nobody who fears god would be take so much pleasure being a always naked Raoul Duke.

Mixed economies are the way to go. As with everything in life, going to extremes is a bad idea. Europe isn't one country btw, so I'd stop talking about it as such as European countries vary significantly in regards to welfare policy etc.

See, this is what I don't get.  Why am I the only ex-Libertarian or Libertarian who votes dem.  You can vote away your economic freedoms and then bitch and complain to get them back but it's a lot harder to get your civil liberties back.

Two reasons. One is while I want abortion to be legal, gay marriage, legalizing drugs... all that stuff... in the end, none of that effects me directly. I am not gay, will never have an abortion, and don't do drugs (not illegal ones anyway).

And the other reason is if I did want to do those things, the government is very bad at stopping me. Abortion is legal, Drugs anyone can get, and if I was gay, I am sure 90% of my lifestyle would be permitted.

The government however is extremely good at taking away my economic freedoms. You don't pay your taxes, and they will find you.

So I vote for the freedoms that the government sucks at taking away. if a Libertarian had a snow balls chance in hell of wining, I would vote for him or her. The closest thing we had was Ron Paul, and look how that turned out.

You're not. As of this election, had I been allowed to vote (it appears that California fucked up my absentee ballot), I would have voted Obama.

With most Libertarians, I think it's a give-take trade. In the past, I found the dogmatic social principles of the Republican party tolerable because they, by and large, spent less than the Democrats when in power. See Clinton's 1994-1998 Congresses for examples of this. Also, in case you haven't noticed, the Republicans give the Religious Right mic time and little else. They squawk a lot but nothing got done - well, until the Patriot Act, but that's part of my next point...

Now, the Republicans spend more, try to restrict us more privately, and basically fail on every principles of the Libertarian Party past "tax less". I think you'll see more and more Libertarians vote Democrat until this changes.

I'm actually fairly religious.  I can't stand most other Christians, especially in the South, but I know a lot about the Bible and am pretty attached to Christianity, although I rarely if ever go to church.  I'm really into collegiate research on Christianity and the Bible.

It helped that I was more or less agnostic for awhile.  I regularly end up siding with secular progressive people on social issues because I disagree with most of what the Republican party stands for, except some economic issues.  Most of my friends are atheist or agnostic, and I generally prefer those kind of people to religious people.  They are just easier to get along with generally and don't have their heads up their ass.  Not to mention they usually have better taste in art, my other big passion.