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Forums - Sales Discussion - January NPD sales for Canada: Who's the Wiiner?

Chumly said: Im not the one in Denial dude. Do you make yourself feel better by trying to insult people? Hoping that their younger than you? All I said was you could compare launches because they were BOTH sold out and BOTH could have sold more. But if the 360 was so popular why wasnt it sold out for longer? And also you completely ignored my second comment about how YOU cant compare the last three months of sales because the Wii has been sold out which is what you have been doing.
Hypocrite. The 360 was of short supply into 2006, it wasn't until closer to the summer that it was solved I believe. Ignored? All you did was fly off the handle like a child and started to attack me. Grow Up! My point was clear, you wanted to compare launches and I prove why you can't. Is that so hard to understand? Think reeeeeeaaaaaaaalllllll hard.....Come on!



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The demand for Wii, even in USA, is much much larger than the demand for Xbox 360. January was the first month with enough supplies to show this, and it wasn't even nearly enough to fill demand. We're well into February now and the Wii is still impossible to find. Xbox 360 (or PS3, obviously) simply cannot hope to compete.



DIAR said: The Joker said: ^ Wii is dominating every market in the world right now, so that excuse doesn't hold water. Not in the biggest market the USA where the 360 has outsold it over a 3 month period.
WTF are you talking about? The Wii outsold the 360 in January, after all the hype...



zsidane said: Stolen from the Magic Box forums: Software Top 10 1. Lost Planet: Extreme Condition 15.400 2. WarioWare: Smooth Moves* 3. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess* (Wii) 4. Gears of War* 5. New Super Mario Bros* 6. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GCN) 7. Guitar Hero 2 bundle 8. NHL 07 9. Rainbow Six Vegas 10. NHL 07 *: All 12k-13k Hardware Wii 34,000 PS2 27,000 360 14,400 PS3 6,800 So we have the 360 outsold by the PS2 as usual and the Wii >> the PS2+PS3 (34.000 >> 33.800).
Well even if everybody is talking about everything expect the numbers you showed I at least want to do some nice statement I think it is impressive of Wii and PS2. Wii for clearly beating both xbox360 and PS3. PS2 for it is a 7 year old system (or is it even older?) still showing up great legs and great sales al over the world. The question is not if it is the most succefull system but if any system in the future can match it.



 

 

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bulla said: DIAR said: The Joker said: ^ Wii is dominating every market in the world right now, so that excuse doesn't hold water. Not in the biggest market the USA where the 360 has outsold it over a 3 month period. WTF are you talking about? The Wii outsold the 360 in January, after all the hype...
The 360 outsold the Wii in November and December, Even with this Wii's January sales it is still behind the 360 over a 3 month period.



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DIAR said: Chumly said: So I guess your a moron also then? This is based off what you say. Because whanever someone brings up the Wii outselling the 360 your like OMG BUT THE 360 BEAT IT IN THE 3 MONTH AVERAGE!!! But by your philosophy we cant compare the Wii at launch to the 360 now because the Wii is impossible to find and the 360 is EVERYWHERE. So if Nintendo had made even more than they did it might have been possible to outsell the 360 in November and December. But again this is falling on deaf ears because of the fanboyism you display. Good lord. How old are you? Can you even read little fanboy? I said you can't compare LAUNCH numbers due to the 360 being of very short supply! You may be the only person here stupid enough to miss that. What part of you can't compare LAUNCH numbers because the 360 was of half the supply of the Wii did you not understand little fanboy? You wanted to compare launches and I proved you can't do that. Jesus dude, calmdown, don't wet your pampers.
First: You Cant use the 360's launch numbers, but you CAN use the Wii's? Strange reasoning. Second: You're comparing X360's Nov Sales from the First to the 30th, to the Wii's Sales from the 19th to the 30th. Wait until March's numbers come out, and lets see how your "3 month" goes. Better yet, wait till december, and we will see how badly outsold the 360 truly becomes. Nintendo will move 10 million plus units this year, count on it.



As a Canadian, I have nothing interesting to say about those numbers. I will however comment on the subsequent debate. DIAR... dude... lighten up and actually read other peoples posts. Right now you're this flailing mad man running hysterically up and down the isles screaming that we're all morons just because people pointed out the flaw in your argument.



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Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

Posted this elsewhere, but since it does bear relevance here...

DIAR said: I said you can't compare LAUNCH numbers due to the 360 being of very short supply! You may be the only person here stupid enough to miss that. What part of you can't compare LAUNCH numbers because the 360 was of half the supply of the Wii did you not understand little fanboy? You wanted to compare launches and I proved you can't do that. Jesus dude, calmdown, don't wet your pampers.
Of course you can (and he uses Huggies ). What Microsoft managed to (not) put out in terms of units isn't Nintendo's or Sony's concern, issue, fault, problem, however you want to put it. You can say the same about Nintendo and Sony. Or any company. It's like saying you can't bash Sony for its poor PS3 sales because they were unable to ship units to retail in large enough numbers. What are Microsoft and Nintendo supposed to do? Play goody-goody two shoes and say, "Kutaragi and company, although we are running a business, which is all about profitability, and we are in the cutthroat industry of videogames, and we would rather your Sony curl up and rot in hell, we can see you are having problems with manufacturing enough PS3 units ready in time for your launch. We think your console launch will not go very smoothly the way things are. Tell you what: Let's make the playing field level and fair. We'll stop ramping up production until you can get your console production capability in gear". Or: PRESS RELEASE: Nintendo of Japan has today announced they are temporarily closing down factories in China and Malaysia in an attempt to lower the number of Wii consoles being manufactured. It has been reported that Mr Satoru Iwata made this bold decision due to the fact the Xbox360 and PS3 have encountered numerous unrelated manufacturing problems, hampering the availability of these next-generation consoles. "We think in order to truly see which one of the console manufacturers really have the winning system, that their sales should be compared to a 1:1:1 basis. In other words, we will not make more than the number of consoles each manufacturer was able to muster in the three months following their respective console launches, and then we can see who really sells the most." He continued, "Of course, we anticipate that both Microsoft and Sony are able to sort out their manufacturing glitches very soon, because our shareholders are furious that we have taken such a move when in fact we can produce many more consoles and kick the living shit out of the other consoles in terms of sales (and make a fortune while at it)." Or Microsoft: "As we were unable to produce so many consoles during the Xbox 360 launch, we would appreciate it if both Nintendo and Sony play nice with us and cut down the availability of consoles so we can be compared fairly and squarely when people want to see who REALLY sold the most, the fastest. Oh, and buy Vista - it ROXORS!!!111", exclaimed Steve Ballmer. That is about the "most ridiculest" comment - "you can't compare these consoles during launch" - my left testicle you can't. As far as I'm (or Nintendo, or Sony, or Microsoft are) concerned, it's about who sells the most. Numbers don't lie. It's people twisting statistics left, right and center that skew these numbers and for all argument's sake, you CAN compare consoles during this, and every single launch. "OMFG Sony's PoS4 is selling 4x the amount of Nintendo Puus while the X1080(to the umpteenth power) is outselling them all by a factor of 19!" At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if it's because of manufacturing glitches, or lack of availability or manufacturing hurdles. If it's out there and people buy it, it's a sale. There are no points or 1/2 points for no-shows, delayed launches or missing console numbers, or three-point conversions due to mysterious blue diodes being stolen by leprechauns, nor will two-point safeties be awarded for red-ring-o-ramas plaguing console X. At the end of the day it's all about how many consoles were sold during a predetermined period of time (for that, check VGCharts' db and console comparisons - they sure as hell aren't making any exceptions because companies couldn't get their ass in gear in time for their respective launches. You don't see any asterisks on these charts asking viewers to "* take the Xbox's low initial three months of sales with a grain of salt, because MS could've sold much more IF they had more consoles ready.") To wit, some data from the North American market, courtesy of VGCharts: http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=Wii&name2=X360&type=0&align=0 http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=PS3&name2=X360&type=0&align=0 http://www.vgcharts.org/aconscomps.php?name1=PS3&name2=Wii&type=0&align=0 Note the lack of asterisks leading to disclaimers in the charts. And yes, if comparing by the first three months since launch, both the Wii and the PS3 outsell the Xbox360. If counting this past November-January, then the Xbox360 outsells the Wii, which outsells the PS3. That's all there is to it. What part of statistics, economics, or business don't you understand little fanboy?



all ive seen you say of the 80 or so posts youve listed is you have bad grammar and the xbox out sold the wii in the us at one point get some new material its starting to get old real fast. Canada holla



stof said: As a Canadian, I have nothing interesting to say about those numbers. I will however comment on the subsequent debate. DIAR... dude... lighten up and actually read other peoples posts. Right now you're this flailing mad man running hysterically up and down the isles screaming that we're all morons just because people pointed out the flaw in your argument.
Too bad nobody has done that yet. All I see is you idiots taking my posts out of context.