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well when are they receiving those 1000 bombs from the US...im pretty sure they havent got them yet



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halogamer1989 said:
whatever said:
It almost sounds like you are hoping for this. If that is the case, then you are one sad individual.

No not sad.  Just realistic. With Olmert out of the way Livni will be forced by the IDF to go ahead with defensive measures.  Iran will have a nuke by late 2009 at the earliest.  By no means am I wanting war, but you have to understand the Israelis--they will kill two birds with one stone.  

 

The problem with that, however, is that the Israelis cannot stop Iran unilaterally. I believe both the EU and the US have affirmed this. 

 



Israel is a fukn puppet or America is, i dk. They got nukes, i say why not somebody else. Your well aware of the fact that the only country to ever use one is the same country who is telling you just how much everyone else wants to use them.

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Zucas said:
Kasz216 said:
Zucas said:
Typical of Israel if they do. And people think we owe something to Israel. We owe nothing to them. They can handle themselves and they get themselves in deep with the sharks anyways.

Yeah... cause you'd want someone who wants you dead to devlop nukes.

 

 

Haha ignorance isn't cute anymore guys.  If Israel is going to be involved with anything nuclear they will be the first to drop it.  I don't blame most of the Middle Eastern countries for wanting them gone or trying to get nukes of their own.  Cause Israel is not afraid to use it on them at will.

Yeah... If Israel nuked anybody they'd lose all Western support and be screwed.  Israel can't nuke everyone else in the middle east.

You seem to be the ignorant one.

 



halogamer1989 said:
whatever said:
It almost sounds like you are hoping for this. If that is the case, then you are one sad individual.

No not sad.  Just realistic. With Olmert out of the way Livni will be forced by the IDF to go ahead with defensive measures.  Iran will have a nuke by late 2009 at the earliest.  By no means am I wanting war, but you have to understand the Israelis--they will kill two birds with one stone.  

 

Nah, more like... Late 2010 at the earliest.  Even then it's probably more likely 2011-2013.



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I was gonna do the same but Israel had dibs on Iran... I think the USA has dibs on everything else so I´ll have to wait til something frees up :)



 

 

 

Kasz216 said:
Zucas said:
Kasz216 said:
Zucas said:
Typical of Israel if they do. And people think we owe something to Israel. We owe nothing to them. They can handle themselves and they get themselves in deep with the sharks anyways.

Yeah... cause you'd want someone who wants you dead to devlop nukes.

 

 

Haha ignorance isn't cute anymore guys. If Israel is going to be involved with anything nuclear they will be the first to drop it. I don't blame most of the Middle Eastern countries for wanting them gone or trying to get nukes of their own. Cause Israel is not afraid to use it on them at will.

Yeah... If Israel nuked anybody they'd lose all Western support and be screwed. Israel can't nuke everyone else in the middle east.

You seem to be the ignorant one.

 

 

Your foreign policy expertise is about as poor as Sarah Palin's.  It's cute but not funny. don't try to coach me on what you think you know.  You look at the world and you see good and bad.  I look at the world and I see the inbetweens.  Whatever your vested interest is in Israel is silly.  You look at the Middle Eastern countries and you see blatantly bad and look at Israel and see blatanly good.  You wrong in both ways due to whatever narrow thoughts you got that from.  Possibly your religion if I had to guess.

Point being this isn't a thing of good or bad nor a thing of will Israel care if they nuke someone or not.  They are there to be used anyways.  It's just no one has been stupid enough to use them... except America of course.  They got off easy unfortunately though.  Israel is looking for an excuse to use nukes.  Probably going to start stirring up more trouble in the Middle East and dub it as terrorism in their countries and need to do these things to protect their country.  The unwinnable wars they will cause will continuously go on while they gain worldly support under the name of fighting terrorism.  Sound familiar.  Eventually when they have all the support they need people will be begging them around the world to take drastic measure where they assert themselves as the dominant force in the Middle East by making an example of a country with a nuke.  The rest of the world doesn't respond against them similar to how no one was going to stop America after they nuked Japan.  Israel solves their problem and starts expanding.

This is foreign policy and this is what should be going through people's minds not your black and white blotches.  I'm not saying the Middle Eastern countries are in the right and Israel is inherently wrong but I'm saying its similar to 911 and the Georgian-Russian crisis.  The bigger military countries wait for the smaller ones to screw up so they can intervene.  It's classic and it could be happening again.



Zucas said:
Kasz216 said:
Zucas said:
Kasz216 said:
Zucas said:
Typical of Israel if they do. And people think we owe something to Israel. We owe nothing to them. They can handle themselves and they get themselves in deep with the sharks anyways.

Yeah... cause you'd want someone who wants you dead to devlop nukes.

 

 

Haha ignorance isn't cute anymore guys. If Israel is going to be involved with anything nuclear they will be the first to drop it. I don't blame most of the Middle Eastern countries for wanting them gone or trying to get nukes of their own. Cause Israel is not afraid to use it on them at will.

Yeah... If Israel nuked anybody they'd lose all Western support and be screwed. Israel can't nuke everyone else in the middle east.

You seem to be the ignorant one.

 

 

Your foreign policy expertise is about as poor as Sarah Palin's.  It's cute but not funny. don't try to coach me on what you think you know.  You look at the world and you see good and bad.  I look at the world and I see the inbetweens.  Whatever your vested interest is in Israel is silly.  You look at the Middle Eastern countries and you see blatantly bad and look at Israel and see blatanly good.  You wrong in both ways due to whatever narrow thoughts you got that from.  Possibly your religion if I had to guess.

Point being this isn't a thing of good or bad nor a thing of will Israel care if they nuke someone or not.  They are there to be used anyways.  It's just no one has been stupid enough to use them... except America of course.  They got off easy unfortunately though.  Israel is looking for an excuse to use nukes.  Probably going to start stirring up more trouble in the Middle East and dub it as terrorism in their countries and need to do these things to protect their country.  The unwinnable wars they will cause will continuously go on while they gain worldly support under the name of fighting terrorism.  Sound familiar.  Eventually when they have all the support they need people will be begging them around the world to take drastic measure where they assert themselves as the dominant force in the Middle East by making an example of a country with a nuke.  The rest of the world doesn't respond against them similar to how no one was going to stop America after they nuked Japan.  Israel solves their problem and starts expanding.

This is foreign policy and this is what should be going through people's minds not your black and white blotches.  I'm not saying the Middle Eastern countries are in the right and Israel is inherently wrong but I'm saying its similar to 911 and the Georgian-Russian crisis.  The bigger military countries wait for the smaller ones to screw up so they can intervene.  It's classic and it could be happening again.

Your point holds no real merit.

Where did I say Israel was good and the other countries were bad?

Should a nuke be deployed by Israel there would be no way for even the US to back them in the international world and they would be screwed.  Case closed.

Israel doesn't have the population to expand... and by the time they get to this magical scenario your talking about it's likely the majority of the country will be islamic not jewish unless they instigate some sort of racist laws.

Other countries would eaisly stand up to Israel if they nuked people... if Israel did it once they could do it again... and unlike the US which is huge... Israel is small.

That's why the US and Russia were so deadly with there nukes... they were such wide stretches of land... there is no way to conventionally take out everywhere a nuke could be.

If the US was the size of Israel, Russia would of nuked the hell out of it.



My point holds merit in that I know more about this world and especially how countries do thing then you where everything is black and white. And your 3rd paragraph was a testatment to you not even comprehending what I was saying.

Overall though my point is Israel is no golden country or really any country in the MIddle East for that matter. Meaning siding with them over the other countries in that region is simply splitting hairs. Best thing to do is stay out of it.



Zucas said:
My point holds merit in that I know more about this world and especially how countries do thing then you where everything is black and white. And your 3rd paragraph was a testatment to you not even comprehending what I was saying.

Overall though my point is Israel is no golden country or really any country in the MIddle East for that matter. Meaning siding with them over the other countries in that region is simply splitting hairs. Best thing to do is stay out of it.

Once again?  Where did i invoke black and white?  The use of nuclear weapons isn't a "black and white" thing.  It's a thing that people pretty much HAVE to back off of.

I don't think you realize how devestating a nuclear blast would be in Iran... and what it would do.

It would kill millions... and the winds in iran would likely spread the fallout to Pakistan, India and Afganistan.

Nobody is going to stand for that... besides which Israel isn't that crazy.