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@koffieboon

You collect what you sow.

Dunno about doing it deliberately, same could be said about Hamilton crashing to the Kimi's rear in Montreal.

But Hamilton kind of deserves his penalty.

He has been getting cocky after having everything "easily falling" in his lap.
(Got training and money from Mclaren, straight to the good team,some say that he is Dennis's golden boy,compared how they treat Heikki(always heavier car in starting grid), good advices from Alonso during his stay in Mclaren)

By cocky i mean, after everybody has been trying to avoid crashing with him, he's getting used to it and using it.

Like Kubica said it in drivers "gathering": " There are two options. Either drives fast and stays straight or is too aggressive and too cocky"

These comments after his actions on Monza pushing Timo Glock off the road to the lawn or when Alonso had to break on straight after Hamilton cuts straight ahead of him.



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Lewis is awesome at throwing it all away lol



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Punisher said:
@koffieboon

 good advices from Alonso during his stay in Mclaren

This was a joke, right? Alonso refused to share setup info with Lewis, and for the second half of the season wouldn't even talk to him or Ron.



The race I thought was actually quite good, some good racing going on, but what the heck did Bourdais do that mean he got a time penalty after the race?

As I recorded it, I went back to that incident and watched it in slow motion, and at the point Massa hits Bourdais, he is slightly ahead of him (1/4 of a car or so), but Bourdais is on the apex, and there's no where for him to go! And yet the Stewards punish him? Putting Massa up into 7th! If anything, Massa should have got punished, though I wasn't never expecting him to as he ended up worse. But to have the Stewards intervening again after a race, and frankly making the wrong decision again, jut isn't sport. Imagine if other sports had their results changed at the end, people just wouldn't watch!



It was a crazy penalty. If the stewards carry on with decisions like that it will kill the sport as people will be afraid to overtake. Unlike Massa on Webber. Very risky, but fantastic to watch.

What is wrong with Hamilton? Is the pressure getting to him like it did last year? I think he needs to beat Massa in China to win now as Ferrari will likely get a 1-2 in Brazil.



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@Mistershine

Nope, at the start of the season he did give him so pointers, but when he saw what he was/was gonna be (little bit a spoiled kid") he stopped giving him those advises.

@Tispower1

I agree with that.

If there is someone to blame it's then both, it was incident that happened during racing, nothing more.

@Mistershine

"What is wrong with Hamilton? Is the pressure getting to him like it did last year?"

That's what i would like to know too.
(Well, tomorrow we will heard "explanations",from Dennis or Whitmarsh, why he jammed to the 12th position, though Massa was just ahead of him and did raise his positions)



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@Punisher
I'm sure McMerc have said that Lewis sustained floor damage when Massa hit him. Nothing to do with him hitting Kimi and going off at the first corner then.

As a Ferrari fan I obviously want Massa to win, but I want Lewis to lose even more. I'd rather Kubica win and Massa get disqualified.

Now I'm going to hide before ioi permabans me for saying that.



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It was a strange race. I couldn't see the replay of the start many times, so I can't say if the penalty to Hamilton is ok, I mean, if he touches Kimi, the penalty is well applied, but I couldn't see if he hit him. But Lewis has to think about what he did a lot, he can't let things like this happen, when he lost the lead he should have tried to keep 2nd, after all it was a good result, I don't want last year's debacle to happen again.
Massa is almost criminal, Lewis had fully passed him and he hits him on the side and ruins his race (though Lewis was gonna be penalised anyways), and he only gets a drive-through, doesn't anybody think that the rules are badly written (I'm not calling bias on the stewards, I know that they did HERE was the rules say), that this maneuvre warrants a drive-through and pitting without the order like Rosberg in Singapore warrants a stop and go?
On the other hand, poor Kovalainen, one time he was well positioned (he had the podium safe) he has a mechanical failure.
Alonso is an excellent driver, luckily he stays in Renault, because if he went to Ferrari he'd win the championship easily




You guys are all biased..
great ruling of the FIA



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