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Press_the_Button said:
ahcheng said:

although still outsell ps3, but a little disappointment on the numbers.
maybe supply constrain!!!
expect 360 EU number 80K above next week.

 

 

Supply constraint?? Where's your proof of that or is that what you're pinning your hopes on? As for 80k next week - that would be a BIG surprise to everyone.

I'm not pro-Sony or Anti-MS by any stretch, but the numbers for 360 did drop quite fast which could mean the price cut hasn't resulted in a sustained 360 lead over PS3 in Others.

 

 

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AlexeiYashin said:
360 now has the biggest marketing campaign ever in Europe.

Has had a huge price drop.

It costs THREE times less than PS3.

It supposedly has the best, and many cheaper older games.

Yet..., PS3 already equals it's sales in Europe.

Once Sony drops price in Europe, just by as little as 50€, MS will be buried.

 

Maths?

 

199€ x 3 != 399€





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SpartanFX said:
kirby007 said:
ultimate_123 said:
Why are people just suddenly assuming that 360 sales are going to drop back to normal levels?

 

 

they don't think

 

oh no we are thinking,,,but that is what happened 3 months ago with the last price cut in the europe.it was high for 4 weeks and then it dropped back to normal(40K range)

ZOMFG!   You just suggested me the magic recipe for MS: they only need to drop XB360' price every fifth week!!!  

 



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3rd huge multiplatform release in a row where the Wii fails to have sales in relation to the marketshare it holds.
First was Madden, second FU, third Fifa.( say what you want, when you have a 50% marketshare it be nice to get at least 40%+ software share on multiplat titles and the 'legs' argument is getting old, Fifa is gonna need legs that last past the next Fifa release to get the Fifa Wii above 40% marketshare...

Wii is shaping less and less to be the a generation winner the way the PS2 was ( multiplatform titles on PS2 destroyed the others platforms..).

Either or a lot of the core gamer owning a Wii own a HD console too and buy those titles on their HD consoles ( possible but doubtfull..) or the Wii owners just don't like traditional sports games..

 

Revenue generated by Fifa09 in Week 1 :

 

PS3  : 388 472 * 60 = 23 Million euros

Xbox360  : 310 624 * 60 = 18.6 million euros

Wii : 35710 *45 = 1.6 million Euros

PS2 : 124325 * 35 = 4.3 million Euros.

 

Wii revenue share : 3.3%

Wii market share in Others : 43.2%

And then some people complain about third party lack of enthusiasm for the platform..

So far it still seems that not all games do well on the Wii..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:

3rd huge multiplatform release in a row where the Wii fails to have sales in relation to the marketshare it holds.
First was Madden, second FU, third Fifa.( say what you want, when you have a 50% marketshare it be nice to get at least 40%+ software share on multiplat titles and the 'legs' argument is getting old, Fifa is gonna need legs that last past the next Fifa release to get the Fifa Wii above 40% marketshare...

Wii is shaping less and less to be the a generation winner the way the PS2 was ( multiplatform titles on PS2 destroyed the others platforms..).

Either or a lot of the core gamer owning a Wii own a HD console too and buy those titles on their HD consoles ( possible but doubtfull..) or the Wii owners just don't like traditional sports games..

 

Revenue generated by Fifa09 in Week 1 :

 

PS3  : 388 472 * 60 = 23 Million euros

Xbox360  : 310 624 * 60 = 18.6 million euros

Wii : 35710 *45 = 1.6 million Euros

PS2 : 124325 * 35 = 4.3 million Euros.

 

Wii revenue share : 3.3%

Wii market share in Others : 43.2%

And then some people complain about third party lack of enthusiasm for the platform..

So far it still seems that not all games do well on the Wii..

Just before I start, your argument is completely flawed. Whether it wins on multiplat titles or not doesn't matter. The Wii is shaping up to have roughly as high software sales as Ps2, and same for hardware. It will win in profit, and probably revenue, but lose in market share - but honestly, who cares about that.

How third party sales are, doesn't really matter a lot, but still, that's what my post will be about.

(I wrote the rest before the above 2 paragraphs)

 

We know that not all games do well on Wii. But no console can say that all games have done good on them. I believe Wii has an awesome share of games that went with profit, but I cannot prove that.

 

Remember that the developers (or publishers) don't care about the revenue, and for copies sold matter more than revenue. Revenue is kinda meaningless.

 

Another way of looking at what you said:

 

Third party software sold (roughly) in Others, in 2008.

 

Wii:

Total software: 29.7M

Third party: 9.6M

Third party AR: 0.83

Revenue market share: 23.5%

Hardware market share: 43.2%

 

Ps3:

Total software: 18M

Third party: 14M

Third party AR: 1.91

Revenue market share:  41.1%

Hardware market share: 27.5%

 

X360:

Total software: 14M

Third party: 12M

Third party AR: 1.54

Revenue market share: 35.3%

Hardware market share: 29.1%

 

So for third parties, the Ps3 and X360 are beating the Wii with ease.



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Oyvoyvoyv said:
Ail said:

3rd huge multiplatform release in a row where the Wii fails to have sales in relation to the marketshare it holds.
First was Madden, second FU, third Fifa.( say what you want, when you have a 50% marketshare it be nice to get at least 40%+ software share on multiplat titles and the 'legs' argument is getting old, Fifa is gonna need legs that last past the next Fifa release to get the Fifa Wii above 40% marketshare...

Wii is shaping less and less to be the a generation winner the way the PS2 was ( multiplatform titles on PS2 destroyed the others platforms..).

Either or a lot of the core gamer owning a Wii own a HD console too and buy those titles on their HD consoles ( possible but doubtfull..) or the Wii owners just don't like traditional sports games..

 

Revenue generated by Fifa09 in Week 1 :

 

PS3  : 388 472 * 60 = 23 Million euros

Xbox360  : 310 624 * 60 = 18.6 million euros

Wii : 35710 *45 = 1.6 million Euros

PS2 : 124325 * 35 = 4.3 million Euros.

 

Wii revenue share : 3.3%

Wii market share in Others : 43.2%

And then some people complain about third party lack of enthusiasm for the platform..

So far it still seems that not all games do well on the Wii..

 

Just before I start, your argument is completely flawed. Whether it wins on multiplat titles or not doesn't matter. The Wii is shaping up to have roughly as high software sales as Ps2, and same for hardware. It will win in profit, and probably revenue, but lose in market share - but honestly, who cares about that.

How third party sales are, doesn't really matter a lot, but still, that's what my post will be about.

(I wrote the rest before the above 2 paragraphs)

 

We know that not all games do well on Wii. But no console can say that all games have done good on them. I believe Wii has an awesome share of games that went with profit, but I cannot prove that.

 

Remember that the developers (or publishers) don't care about the revenue, and for copies sold matter more than revenue. Revenue is kinda meaningless.

 

Another way of looking at what you said:

 

Third party software sold (roughly) in Others, in 2008.

 

Wii:

Total software: 29.7M

Third party: 9.6M

Third party AR: 0.83

Revenue market share: 23.5%

Hardware market share: 43.2%

 

Ps3:

Total software: 18M

Third party: 14M

Third party AR: 1.91

Revenue market share:  41.1%

Hardware market share: 27.5%

 

X360:

Total software: 14M

Third party: 12M

Third party AR: 1.54

Revenue market share: 35.3%

Hardware market share: 29.1%

 

So for third parties, the Ps3 and X360 are beating the Wii with ease.

 

 

Publishers and developers are business, revenue and profit is what they care the most about.....



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
Ail said:

3rd huge multiplatform release in a row where the Wii fails to have sales in relation to the marketshare it holds.
First was Madden, second FU, third Fifa.( say what you want, when you have a 50% marketshare it be nice to get at least 40%+ software share on multiplat titles and the 'legs' argument is getting old, Fifa is gonna need legs that last past the next Fifa release to get the Fifa Wii above 40% marketshare...

Wii is shaping less and less to be the a generation winner the way the PS2 was ( multiplatform titles on PS2 destroyed the others platforms..).

Either or a lot of the core gamer owning a Wii own a HD console too and buy those titles on their HD consoles ( possible but doubtfull..) or the Wii owners just don't like traditional sports games..

 

Revenue generated by Fifa09 in Week 1 :

 

PS3  : 388 472 * 60 = 23 Million euros

Xbox360  : 310 624 * 60 = 18.6 million euros

Wii : 35710 *45 = 1.6 million Euros

PS2 : 124325 * 35 = 4.3 million Euros.

 

Wii revenue share : 3.3%

Wii market share in Others : 43.2%

And then some people complain about third party lack of enthusiasm for the platform..

So far it still seems that not all games do well on the Wii..

 

Just before I start, your argument is completely flawed. Whether it wins on multiplat titles or not doesn't matter. The Wii is shaping up to have roughly as high software sales as Ps2, and same for hardware. It will win in profit, and probably revenue, but lose in market share - but honestly, who cares about that.

How third party sales are, doesn't really matter a lot, but still, that's what my post will be about.

(I wrote the rest before the above 2 paragraphs)

 

We know that not all games do well on Wii. But no console can say that all games have done good on them. I believe Wii has an awesome share of games that went with profit, but I cannot prove that.

 

Remember that the developers (or publishers) don't care about the revenue, and for copies sold matter more than revenue. Revenue is kinda meaningless.

 

Another way of looking at what you said:

 

Third party software sold (roughly) in Others, in 2008.

 

Wii:

Total software: 29.7M

Third party: 9.6M

Third party AR: 0.83

Revenue market share: 23.5%

Hardware market share: 43.2%

 

Ps3:

Total software: 18M

Third party: 14M

Third party AR: 1.91

Revenue market share:  41.1%

Hardware market share: 27.5%

 

X360:

Total software: 14M

Third party: 12M

Third party AR: 1.54

Revenue market share: 35.3%

Hardware market share: 29.1%

 

So for third parties, the Ps3 and X360 are beating the Wii with ease.

 

 

Publishers and developers are business, revenue and profit is what they care the most about.....

 

 

Something happened to my post, so I had to write a lot again. I then missed out on a few things, and I'm surprised my post is readable.

 

My point is, the developer cares about profit, not revenue. Revenue tells how much people paid, not how much the company made, nor how many played the game. I therefore find you point of Fifa 09 Wii having a 3.3% revenue share to be meaningless.

 



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^ you think the wii made more profit with its pathetic revenue?

Not only that but developers do look at install base when making a game, and then the project how many sales they should see.



Staude said:
Everstar said:
GTAIV08 said:
looks like ps3 could be back on top in europe in 2 weeks, maybe even next week. also back on top in japan but 360 should stay on top in america. give it a month and the ps3 will back on top worldwide. as usual wii crushes all! you know what sony should do? just go for the kill oj the 360 and cut the price! even £50 will do. if that happens 360 is dead and buried for sure!

 

 lol alright yeah=/. Could you tell me why you think that?

Because the 360 is barely able to outsell the ps3 at the pricepoint of a ps2.

 

yep. i dont know why ask that question in the first place, i mean its not hard to see why is it?



dejelek said:
good number overall for xbox 360. also don't forget many beta only for 360, like end war, also soon COD WAW exclusive beta only for xbox 360

 

 beta testing is a system seller now...