cwbys21 said: Stress is a big factor for heart problems, and African Americans have a higher chance of having a heart attack or stroke than a white person. Put Obama in the most stressful job in the world and you could make up percentages of Biden becoming President.

The thing is people don't really care about that. Biden wouldn't be a great president but by and large he would be a very capable one. The reason people are fear mongering about McCain dieing is because Palin becoming president would be a travesty.

It is interesting that the response from Obama supporters in regards to Obama's questionable relationships is to lash out at McCain & Palin. But as interesting as it is, its still an off-topic deflection of the issue.

If you guys don't want to discuss this issue that's fine, but please don't derail the topic by changing the subject.

Sqrl said: It is interesting that the response from Obama supporters in regards to Obama's questionable relationships is to lash out at McCain & Palin. But as interesting as it is, its still an off-topic deflection of the issue. If you guys don't want to discuss this issue that's fine, but please don't derail the topic by changing the subject.

Or maybe the article says as much or more about McCain as it does about Obama, that he is a mudslinging politician just like everyone else.  The blow is blunted because he is using Palin as a mouthpiece, but the timing of the statement is very convenient to say the least (McCain is doing worse in the polls than he has been for months).

It would be completely different if the McCain campaign weren't the ones making the accusations.  Then it would be misdirection to target McCain.

But I am sorry, this isn't preschool, you just can't pick up your ball and go home if people throw what you say back at you.  Making accusations doesn't make you immune to counter-accusations.

 

@Akuma,

I sent you a PM.

@everyone else,

Stay on topic and discuss the article or don't post.

I thought the topic was the FUD-Talk Express? Are we discussing the allegations or the Express that alligatored them?

Thats ridiculous Sqrl. The topic is politics and people are discussing it, topics have gone much further off topic before and its never been stopped. Why now?

The following is a partial transcript of the Oct. 5, 2008, edition of "FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace":

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432894,00.html

Karl Rove discussing the election and the campaigns with Chris Wallace. He discusses many things, but also covers how unusual it is for McCain to announce that he's about to try to change the discourse from the economy to Obama's friends and character. He also says it's really weird for McCain to announce he's giving up on Michigan, and says most politicians don't do that, and gives the example of Obama not making a big announcement for when he gave up on Alaska or North Dakota or a few other states.





WALLACE: Let's discuss the strategy that the McCain campaign is apparently talking about for this final month of the campaign, which is a new assault on Obama's character.

First of all, you talk about going public. Is it smart to go public on the front page of the Washington Post and the New York Times yesterday and say, "We want to turn the page of the economy and go after Obama's character?"

ROVE: Again, I'd wonder about that. I mean, some of the best strategies are the strategies that you don't draw attention to.

For example, right now Obama is running a television ad in battleground states where he basically calls government-run health care an extreme and tries to position himself as somebody who wants neither — no government-run health care or all government-run health care.

I mean, he's attacking single payer, which is sort of the heart and soul of the Democratic Party. But you don't see them out there announcing that. You don't see them drawing attention to it. They simply let the tactic play out, have its impact.

Rath said: Thats ridiculous Sqrl. The topic is politics and people are discussing it, topics have gone much further off topic before and its never been stopped. Why now?

Just because something has been unchecked in the past doesn't mean it should go unchecked when it is noticed.  If you saw this problem previously then you should have reported it so a mod could deal with it.  I'm not perfect and I have myself gone off-topic occasionally, if someone points it out to me though I don't complain about it happening in other threads I just get back on the topic or leave the thread.  I'm not issuing warnings or anything even close to that, I'm just asking people to stick to the topic..not that big of a request really.

If you want to continue this discussion I'd be happy to, but please PM me so we don't go off-topic.

edit: Also, I will point out that any of these other issues can be made into their own topics, I'm not trying to prevent them from being talked about, only to prevent them from detracting from the discussion on this issue.

The Obama campaign is retaliating:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD93KOHB80

 

Sqrl, you've said that Congress attempted to give ACORN huge gobs of money, but the ACORN site says "ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C. To maintain independence, ACORN does not accept government funding and is not tax exempt."
http://acorn.org/index.php?id=12342

How do you reconcile these?