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Ok enough is enough, you guys have fun here. I'm not going to sit around and let you guys try to convince me that what I just saw was swamp gas. Have fun folks~



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sqrl said: "I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board."

I disagree with every atom in my body.

I'll leave it at that. Good night sir.



The Ghost of RubangB said:
sqrl said: "I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board."

I disagree with every atom in my body.

I'll leave it at that. Good night sir.

 

And I disagree with that with every "string" in every quark of every atom of my body

Good night~



To Each Man, Responsibility
Sqrl said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
sqrl said: "I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board."

I disagree with every atom in my body.

I'll leave it at that. Good night sir.

 

And I disagree with that with every "string" in every quark of every atom of my body

Good night~

And given that string theory is quite likely wrong you possibly just agreed with nothing. Good afternoon sir. (Hey I live on the other side of the world, it's tomorrow here).

 

To be serious though I didn't watch the debate so I have no real input.

 



Sqrl said:
akuma587 said:
Sqrl said:

We got Claire McCaskel (sp?) out here saying Palin failed to de-link McCain from Bush ..and that was her main criticism of Palin tonight. Gimme a break folks..the gig is up, she did very well and she had solid answers.

You make it very hard for me to take you guys seriously if you honestly think she is incompetent after this debate. Its a completely untenable position now and that's exactly why Obama surrogates are out their abandoning it as you read this.

A little honesty and integrity please? Give the woman credit, she knew her stuff and she did very well tonight by any measure.

I am just going to copy and paste what Rubang said:

Come on sqrl. You've gone from a neutral party who wants to debunk myths to a full-fledged member of the Palin Defense Force. She did extremely well for someone who was supposed to speak English. Wasn't a debate though. She dodged every single question. And even said it was intentional because dodging questions is now "straight talk."

 

 

I've never denied that I like Palin, and I think its fair to say all of the attacks and smears have moved me more and more in her favor, especially as things you guys are proven wrong time and time again. And the place where she consistently does the best is when you remove the media filter between her and the people as she pointed out very astutely tonight. I don't think that is a coincidence at all that her two best performances have come when the media opinion gets removed and she gets to talk directly to the people.

@issue,

She did very well here tonight in pretty much every respect, and on top of that her performance makes sense in regards to her extremely high approval rating in Alaska, then we have the democrat surrogates dropping the incompetence issue like a bad habit, and the Luntz Group polling data shows that she did very well with independents scoring record highs on a couple of issues, and not just on likability but people also mentioned her substance as well. With the exception of foreign policy, which she did very good on as well, I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board.

Honestly if you guys can't just admit that she did very well, even on substance, then we truly have no common ground to work from.

 

1.  If by "every respect" you mean dodging the questions and reciting stump speach lines.

2. Democrats were saying she would be a formidable opponent before the debate.

3. Nearly all polling data that I've seen has Biden winning in all categories. You're very much the minority here.

And also, I fail to see your logic in the first paragraph. How does other people DISLIKING her cause you to LIKE her more? Feeling sorry for her I can understand. But that is NEVER EVER EVER a good reason to vote for someone.

And of course her two best appearances were speeches. They have these little things called teleprompters. When she actually needs to think for herself is when she looks like a moron. The Couric interviews are absolutely inexcusable.



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Sqrl said:
Sam Yikin said:
Sqrl said:

We got Claire McCaskel (sp?) out here saying Palin failed to de-link McCain from Bush ..and that was her main criticism of Palin tonight. Gimme a break folks..the gig is up, she did very well and she had solid answers.

You make it very hard for me to take you guys seriously if you honestly think she is incompetent after this debate. Its a completely untenable position now and that's exactly why Obama surrogates are out their abandoning it as you read this.

A little honesty and integrity please? Give the woman credit, she knew her stuff and she did very well tonight by any measure.

 

I seem to remember a few Obama surrogates saying that she'd be a great debater... anyway though, I'm sure there were some like you said.

This debate didn't really increase my confidence in her ability to lead at all. She dodged nearly everything aimed at her (attacks AND questions) and began ranting off old talking points.

 

I pointed out McCaskel because she is basically "the" Obama surrogate.  In her introduction on the segment I just saw Chris Wallace introduced her as "a woman the Obama campaign regards as their best and most eloquent surrogate".  This isn't a fringe comment, this was a talking point.

edit: Howard Wolfson also just said "She passed any test that people put out there for her to pass." and "She did very well tonight."  he went on to say he thinks Biden did better but the point is that he didn't think there was a legitimate basis to criticize her or he would have. endedit(ok now I'm done.).

As for the rest of what you said, I think it falls nicely into the "not going to bother" category.  We fundamentally disagree if thats truly your position.

 

 

Of course she passed any tests. Her previous performances were so abysmal that she could have just smiled and waved and she would have passed.

Also, watch the debate again and then tell me truthfully that she didn't dodge a large number of the questions. You won't be able to do that.



Sam Yikin said:

 

1.  If by "every respect" you mean dodging the questions and reciting stump speach lines.

2. Democrats were saying she would be a formidable opponent before the debate.

3. Nearly all polling data that I've seen has Biden winning in all categories. You're very much the minority here.

And also, I fail to see your logic in the first paragraph. How does other people DISLIKING her cause you to LIKE her more? Feeling sorry for her I can understand. But that is NEVER EVER EVER a good reason to vote for someone.

And of course her two best appearances were speeches. They have these little things called teleprompters. When she actually needs to think for herself is when she looks like a moron. The Couric interviews are absolutely inexcusable.

 

Look I said I'm done, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't try to warp my position and continue to take shots after I've said I'm done, it's cheap and frankly its petty.



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Sqrl said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
sqrl said: "I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board."

I disagree with every atom in my body.

I'll leave it at that. Good night sir.

 

And I disagree with that with every "string" in every quark of every atom of my body

Good night~

 

String Theory FTW!

Planck Length, anyone?

 

I couldn't watch the debate, to nerve-racking.  Although from the few bits I managed to watch, she seemed, at least, coherent.  Is the general idea on here that her answers sounded memorized, and thus, ingenuine?



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appolose said:
Sqrl said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
sqrl said: "I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board."

I disagree with every atom in my body.

I'll leave it at that. Good night sir.

 

And I disagree with that with every "string" in every quark of every atom of my body

Good night~

 

String Theory FTW!

Planck Length, anyone?

 

I couldn't watch the debate, to nerve-racking.  Although from the few bits I managed to watch, she seemed, at least, coherent.  Is the general idea on here that her answers sounded memorized, and thus, ingenuine?

Not only were they memorized, but they were completely irrelevant to the actual questions.  Every single response was a random talking point, and not even in a good order.  She even tried to say that not answering the questions was good, because it might not be what we ant to hear, but it's "straight talk to the American people," which I personally took as an insult, because what I wanted to hear was an answer to the question, so I could compare the two responses.

 



The Ghost of RubangB said:
appolose said:
Sqrl said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
sqrl said: "I thought she had better answers than Biden across the board."

I disagree with every atom in my body.

I'll leave it at that. Good night sir.

 

And I disagree with that with every "string" in every quark of every atom of my body

Good night~

 

String Theory FTW!

Planck Length, anyone?

 

I couldn't watch the debate, to nerve-racking.  Although from the few bits I managed to watch, she seemed, at least, coherent.  Is the general idea on here that her answers sounded memorized, and thus, ingenuine?

Not only were they memorized, but they were completely irrelevant to the actual questions.  Every single response was a random talking point, and not even in a good order.  She even tried to say that not answering the questions was good, because it might not be what we ant to hear, but it's "straight talk to the American people," which I personally took as an insult, because what I wanted to hear was an answer to the question, so I could compare the two responses.

 

Mm, I see.

 



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