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Sqrl said:
NJ5 said:

I don't think you're blind with bias, I just think you don't have any convincing points to show that she actually understands the important issues. I did in fact downplay the approval rating. Approval ratings in general suck, and this particular one isn't necessarily any better given the context.

Please, by all means tell me how this approval rating means so much in the context of her VP candidacy. Tell me why it's more important than the fact that she has yet to show the slightest clue about the economy, energy and foreign policy.

If you do that, then we can discuss it further... You can also simply say the approval rating trumps all the rest, and then we'll agree to disagree. Either way, we can put an end to this argument very soon.

 

The point is we've seen the same clips and interviews and have a very different conclusion.  Your conclusion happens to be at odds with the pre-VP selection reality while mine seems to fit it pretty well. I don't think there is much else to say to be honest.

 

Sorry, I didn't get that. Can you be more specific? What's your conclusion from watching her interviews and public speeches?

 



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NJ5 said:
Sqrl said:
NJ5 said:

I don't think you're blind with bias, I just think you don't have any convincing points to show that she actually understands the important issues. I did in fact downplay the approval rating. Approval ratings in general suck, and this particular one isn't necessarily any better given the context.

Please, by all means tell me how this approval rating means so much in the context of her VP candidacy. Tell me why it's more important than the fact that she has yet to show the slightest clue about the economy, energy and foreign policy.

If you do that, then we can discuss it further... You can also simply say the approval rating trumps all the rest, and then we'll agree to disagree. Either way, we can put an end to this argument very soon.

 

The point is we've seen the same clips and interviews and have a very different conclusion.  Your conclusion happens to be at odds with the pre-VP selection reality while mine seems to fit it pretty well. I don't think there is much else to say to be honest.

 

Sorry, I didn't get that. Can you be more specific? What's your conclusion from watching her interviews and public speeches?

 

I think she does extremely well on energy, she does OK on the economy, and her biggest weakness is foriegn policy.  But as the VP I'm not really worried about her weakness.  In short she holds her own compared to Obama and is lacking compared to Biden and especially compared to McCain. 

Edit: PS - That's just comprehension, my favorability to their positions on the issues works out differently.

 

 



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Sqrl said:

I think she does extremely well on energy, she does OK on the economy, and her biggest weakness is foriegn policy.  But as the VP I'm not really worried about her weakness.  In short she holds her own compared to Obama and is lacking compared to Biden and especially compared to McCain. 

Edit: PS - That's just comprehension, my favorability to their positions on the issues works out differently.

 

 

I have to disagree on the economy unless you have some transcript or clip of a good answer about that one. The ones I remember are extremely poor, like the video in the previous page.

As for energy, it's definitely her strongest point but she seems to overstate the importance of Alaska's resources. She says Alaska provides 20% of US's energy, which is not true (not even if you replace "energy" with "oil"). She also said renewable energy is not proven to be economic or reliable, which is blatantly false.

 



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NJ5 said:
Sqrl said:

I think she does extremely well on energy, she does OK on the economy, and her biggest weakness is foriegn policy.  But as the VP I'm not really worried about her weakness.  In short she holds her own compared to Obama and is lacking compared to Biden and especially compared to McCain. 

Edit: PS - That's just comprehension, my favorability to their positions on the issues works out differently.

 

 

I have to disagree on the economy unless you have some transcript or clip of a good answer about that one. The ones I remember are extremely poor, like the video in the previous page.

As for energy, it's definitely her strongest point but she seems to overstate the importance of Alaska's resources. She says Alaska provides 20% of US's energy, which is not true (not even if you replace "energy" with "oil"). She also said renewable energy is not proven to be economic or reliable, which is blatantly false.

 


She is far from the blundering idiot cafferty tried to make her out to be based on a single answer from an interview.  Alaska has a 5 billion dollar surplus and just about every facet of their large-business economy is doing well (fishing, mining, drilling, etc..), and while oil prices have helped, things like that don't just happen.  Of course from what I've seen of the economic debate in Alaska over the past few weeks the anti-Palin position is that everything that is going well in Alaska is attributed entirely to a non-Palin factor. 

On energy: Your point is she embellished her state's importance?  So that makes her unqualified?  I'm confused because now you're saying its her strong suit but earlier in this thread you said she was clueless on energy.

 



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Sqrl said:


She is far from the blundering idiot cafferty tried to make her out to be based on a single answer from an interview.  Alaska has a 5 billion dollar surplus and just about every facet of their large-business economy is doing well (fishing, mining, drilling, etc..), and while oil prices have helped, things like that don't just happen.  Of course from what I've seen of the economic debate in Alaska over the past few weeks the anti-Palin position is that everything that is going well in Alaska is attributed entirely to a non-Palin factor. 

On energy: Your point is she embellished her state's importance?  So that makes her unqualified?  I'm confused because now you're saying its her strong suit but earlier in this thread you said she was clueless on energy.

 

I said strongest. Of the big three, that is. Her statement about Alaska's importance is not very informed, and the one about renewables is a plain disgrace. Maybe one of her first few trips should be to Denmark where the biggest electricity source is wind, or perhaps Sweden where half of electricity comes from hydro power.

 



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Omg this is painful ALREADY! I feel bad for Sarah Palin



she memorized her lines.... lol



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Well the last 90 minutes puts to rest the debate.

Any person who would even consider voting for McCain just saw the incompetence narrative exposed for what it is...biased propaganda.

She did extremely well for someone who is supposed to be clueless.



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Sqrl said:

Well the last 90 minutes puts to rest the debate.

Any person who would even consider voting for McCain just saw the incompetence narrative exposed for what it is...biased propaganda.

She did extremely well for someone who is supposed to be clueless.

 

the Denial is strong here. Seriously, I expected her to be better, however she barely answered any questions. Frankly, it was quite a bad debate. I know Biden didnt want to attack her, but i was hoping he blasted her.



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