Great vid, madskillz.
Choose, which is worse:
The bail out is about health care reform. (A lack of knowledge)
FDR sat down with the nation in front of the TV. (Saying TV instead of Radio)
Obviously, Palin's position is far superior, she will come off as a political genius in this debate.
I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.
People who think that Katie Couric gave Palin a hardball interview seriously need to watch more television and need to lay off the media hate-a-rade.
Turn on the O'Reily Factor for 2 minutes when a guest is on and anything said on there is more intense than what Couric asked Palin.
We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke
It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...." Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson
Palin= dumb b*tch.
NJ5 said:
The "alaskans like her" defense is not very good... No one is saying she's a complete moron, just that she lacks the substance needed to be president. I haven't yet seen a single clip which shows she understands the important issues. She spews stupid statements about the economy, energy (even though McCain says she's the top energy expert in America), foreign policy... Those are the subjects that count for this presidency, not whether she can make Alaskans happy or not.
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Who's being defensive? I was just pointing out stupidity in the argument.
The fact is that Alaskans were the last people to weigh in on her before the hyper-partisan train tried to run her over, its the least biased view we have of her and you want to toss it out so we can instead look at her through the partisan lense. Hell the "alaskans like her defense" as you call it (ie tried to marginalize it) may be the most legitimate point anyone has made about her since she was selected!
It's a point that shatters your narrative so you reject it, but it is a legit point and one that nobody has been able to reconcile their views with. Instead they marginalize and ignore the point because its the only way to deal with it.
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If my governor gave me 2000-3000 dollars at the end of every year in oil revenue, I'd like them too.
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Alaska is very small and very conservative. Not a reliable sample.
| Sqrl said: Who's being defensive? I was just pointing out stupidity in the argument. The fact is that Alaskans were the last people to weigh in on her before the hyper-partisan train tried to run her over, its the least biased view we have of her and you want to toss it out so we can instead look at her through the partisan lense. Hell the "alaskans like her defense" as you call it (ie tried to marginalize it) may be the most legitimate point anyone has made about her since she was selected! It's a point that shatters your narrative so you reject it, but it is a legit point and one that nobody has been able to reconcile their views with. Instead they marginalize and ignore the point because its the only way to deal with it. |
I am able to reconcile it, very easily actually (in fact I already have in another post). In no way does it "shatter my narrative", and I find it laughable that you would suggest so:
I know many populist politicians who have a great record with the populations they work with. This can easily be the case here, given that Alaska is a small and isolated place (population wise). Do you think it's outlandish to suggest Palin might be one of those populist politicians? Heck, even Bush had good approval rates at a point.
Saying "Alaskans like her" is a legit point, no doubt about that. I just don't think it's nearly enough to counter the ignorance she has been displaying regarding the issues which really matter for the presidency.
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NJ5 said:
I am able to reconcile it, very easily actually (in fact I already have in another post). In no way does it "shatter my narrative", and I find it laughable that you would suggest so: I know many populist politicians who have a great record with the populations they work with. This can easily be the case here, given that Alaska is a small and isolated place. Do you think it's outlandish to suggest Palin might be one of those populist politicians? Saying "Alaskans like her" is a legit point, no doubt about that. I just don't think it's nearly enough to counter the ignorance she has been displaying regarding the issues which really matter for the presidency.
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I'm not seeing how you've reconciled with it, you've marginalized it again and then tried to call it reconciliation perhaps.
But if we want to talk about laughable we only have to look at the overreaction to some of the interview questions and we can see whats going on here. Bush doctrine hysteria ring a bell? Or if we get more specific to you, one of my favorite laughable moments was when you linked to an article written by one of her most vehement political enemies in Alaska. Its laughable because you either didn't know (which speaks to how little research you've done on her) or didn't care how blatant you were being with the bias.
But this is kind of pointless since we both know we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. I think you've gone blind with bias and I'm sure you think the same of me.
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| Sqrl said: I'm not seeing how you've reconciled with it, you've marginalized it again and then tried to call it reconciliation perhaps. But if we want to talk about laughable we only have to look at the overreaction to some of the interview questions and we can see whats going on here. Bush doctrine hysteria ring a bell? Or if we get more specific to you, one of my favorite laughable moments was when you linked to an article written by one of her most vehement political enemies in Alaska. Its laughable because you either didn't know (which speaks to how little research you've done on her) or didn't care how blatant you were being with the bias. But this is kind of pointless since we both know we aren't going to see eye to eye on this. I think you've gone blind with bias and I'm sure you think the same of me. |
I don't think you're blind with bias, I just think you don't have any convincing points to show that she actually understands the important issues. I did in fact downplay the approval rating. Approval ratings in general suck, and this particular one isn't necessarily any better given the context.
Please, by all means tell me how this approval rating means so much in the context of her VP candidacy. Tell me why it's more important than the fact that she has yet to show the slightest clue about the economy, energy and foreign policy.
If you do that, then we can discuss it further... You can also simply say the approval rating trumps all the rest, and then we'll agree to disagree. Either way, we can put an end to this argument very soon.
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NJ5 said:
I don't think you're blind with bias, I just think you don't have any convincing points to show that she actually understands the important issues. I did in fact downplay the approval rating. Approval ratings in general suck, and this particular one isn't necessarily any better given the context. Please, by all means tell me how this approval rating means so much in the context of her VP candidacy. Tell me why it's more important than the fact that she has yet to show the slightest clue about the economy, energy and foreign policy. If you do that, then we can discuss it further... You can also simply say the approval rating trumps all the rest, and then we'll agree to disagree. Either way, we can put an end to this argument very soon.
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The point is we've seen the same clips and interviews and have a very different conclusion. Your conclusion happens to be at odds with the pre-VP selection reality while mine seems to fit it pretty well. I don't think there is much else to say to be honest.
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