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ony should just go for the kill in europe and drop the price to £250 in europe. that would surely kill of the 360 and leave a huge weekly gap. i dont think microsoft can make the 360 any more cheaper than it already is! if it went any cheaper it would be cheaper than the ps2!



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The UK chart is interesting, as it shows that in 2007, Wii and DS were both putting to shame every other systems. The other systems have similar numbers, but both Wii and DS have 1/4th more revenue.
Also the PS3 is tieing with the XB360, despite the XB360 having 1 year and 6 months headstart.
And finally, the PS3 tied the XB360 despite :
- XB360's 1.5 year headstart
- XB360 price cut
- higher price
- UK being the best XB360 market
which is no short of amazing and reassuring for the PS3.



ony should just go for the kill in europe and drop the price to £250 in europe. that would surely kill of the 360 and leave a huge weekly gap. i dont think microsoft can make the 360 any more cheaper than it already is! if it went any cheaper it would be cheaper than the ps2!


Sony can't do that. The one market that comes closest to bringing them profit, is not the market they will drop price in.

They'll focus on US (and Japan) first. Europe will serve as a non-profit, possible tiny profit post to offset additional losses in the US if they do go for a lower price there...



ookaze said:
The UK chart is interesting, as it shows that in 2007, Wii and DS were both putting to shame every other systems. The other systems have similar numbers, but both Wii and DS have 1/4th more revenue.
Also the PS3 is tieing with the XB360, despite the XB360 having 1 year and 6 months headstart.
And finally, the PS3 tied the XB360 despite :
- XB360's 1.5 year headstart
- XB360 price cut
- higher price
- UK being the best XB360 market
which is no short of amazing and reassuring for the PS3.

Because the graph is yearly sales, (not accumulative) some of those points don't apply.

the very final split between all consoles (look down the right hand side of the graph and ignore anything to the left) show the X360 and PS3 with very similar revenues.

That means for all the hardware and software (peripheral hardware not included) the X360 and PS3 took in similar amounts of money, what this means is that with a lower price tag the 360 still pullled in the same money, meaning it either sold more hardware to make up the extra cash, or it sold the same hardware, but more software.

 



mrstickball said:

Here is a North American picture of the same chart. The same results too, just about.

Mind you, it's for hardware only. Since VGC only has data going back to 2004 for SW, and it's an impartial picture...I just went with hardware. VGC has the North American market at around $17 billion in 2007 assuming normal prices, and $5 under MSRP per software title sold.

Nice work on the chart.

Here's some data for US HW & SW combined value from 1990 - 2001, source is on the JPEG (right click and view if not all is displayed):

2001 - 2004 US hardware value, source is Wedbush Morgan:

Basically just need software data for 2002 & 2003 to make a comparative graph to the UK one with combined HW & SW.



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TWRoO said:

Because the graph is yearly sales, (not accumulative) some of those points don't apply.

the very final split between all consoles (look down the right hand side of the graph and ignore anything to the left) show the X360 and PS3 with very similar revenues.

That means for all the hardware and software (peripheral hardware not included) the X360 and PS3 took in similar amounts of money, what this means is that with a lower price tag the 360 still pullled in the same money, meaning it either sold more hardware to make up the extra cash, or it sold the same hardware, but more software.

 

 

But then the 1.5 year headstart apply and is putting the XB360 to shame then. Not even talking about DS and Wii which are far less expensive.

Well, it just confirms what we already know.



Oyvoyvoyv said:
As of September means as of start of September, right?

Probably mid September as last year it was through Sep 15.

Also shows my PS2 estimate was too low as it was already at 9.6m through Sep 15 2007. Probably around 10m now, but I think SCE UK would have made an announcement if it had passed 10m.

 



@BKK2 is that image telling me that GAME expect to sell 1.3 million 360s, yet only 400k PS3s, and 1.1 million Wiis?

EDIT: Forget it. Just noticed the date.



ookaze said:
TWRoO said:

Because the graph is yearly sales, (not accumulative) some of those points don't apply.

the very final split between all consoles (look down the right hand side of the graph and ignore anything to the left) show the X360 and PS3 with very similar revenues.

That means for all the hardware and software (peripheral hardware not included) the X360 and PS3 took in similar amounts of money, what this means is that with a lower price tag the 360 still pullled in the same money, meaning it either sold more hardware to make up the extra cash, or it sold the same hardware, but more software.

 

 

But then the 1.5 year headstart apply and is putting the XB360 to shame then. Not even talking about DS and Wii which are far less expensive.

Well, it just confirms what we already know.

Erm no... the one year head start doesn't apply... the graph is not cumulative. If you want the total revenue you have to add the previous two "depths" for the X360 space.... which looks like in total it has made about 2 times the total revenue that the PS3 has in the UK... which to me shows they are both pretty much on the same path as each other, but the X360 started first so it has made more revenue in total. (despite being cheaper)

And yes, the fact the the DS and Wii, which are only 1/2 or less in terms of price, and have cheaper games, yet still made more revenue does show how well they are selling here.

In fact I am going to estimate (I'm not counting pixels though) the total revenue.... these are very vague, I imagine BKK2 has the actuals to be honest.

X360 - 50 + 400 + 450 = £900 million
PS3 - £450 million
PSP - 250 + 350 + 200 = £800 million
Wii - 50 + 550 = £600 million
DS - 150 + 350 + 600 = £1100 million

Although that graph looks to be only through 2007 (presumably September 2007)

 



Graph is through December 2007.

I only have software value splits for 2007:

FORMAT MARKET SHARE BY VALUE

Software: £1.719 billion

Xbox 360: 18.6 per cent
Nintendo DS: 18.2 per cent
PC: 17.9 per cent
PlayStation 2: 15.3 per cent
Wii: 13.2 per cent
PS3: 9.1 per cent
PSP: 6.4 per cent
GBA: 0.6 per cent

Game console hardware: £1.252 billion
Gaming accesories: £386 million

TOTAL: £3.356 billion