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Forums - Sony - Believing Blu-ray will succeed doesn't make sense!!!?

Alright i read alot of the different posts and i noticed one thing that is very much part of everyone posting on these forums.... we know more then most people about video games and tvs and movies.... which is great we all love to read and argue about it.

The problem is in a topic like this the people who are buying and the people who blu-rays success depends on is not us.  Nintendo showed that with the Wii (not bashing the Wii).  The normal Joe or Jane that looks at something and says thats pretty is the one who decides which format will win what.  When they watch a movie now on SD they don't have a problem with what they are seeing, they don't look at it and go omg this isn't even in HD i can't watch this.  Blu-ray will continue to take more and more of the market as people's dvd players break and the option of upgrading is not alot more money then just staying with DVD.

I do believe as time goes on Blu-ray will become the media format everyone uses

just my thoughts....



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Yeah, as long as my SD TV holds up (going on 16 years now) , Blu Ray has no use to me. im not going to go out and make a $500+ purchase on an HDTV until all possibilities of keeping my SDTV are alive. Besides, for how rarely I watch TV or movies, it doesnt make sense.

They mentioned hulu.com in the article, very good source for watching free movies online. Also watch-movies.net is a good one too.



bardicverse said:
Yeah, as long as my SD TV holds up (going on 16 years now) , Blu Ray has no use to me. im not going to go out and make a $500+ purchase on an HDTV until all possibilities of keeping my SDTV are alive. Besides, for how rarely I watch TV or movies, it doesnt make sense.

They mentioned hulu.com in the article, very good source for watching free movies online. Also watch-movies.net is a good one too.

 

hulu is great...i just wish it had more content.  well - it's saving me ~$50 a month in cable tv cost.  daily show/cobert is all i need from them. xD



It is going to be a long time before BR overtakes DVD, if it happens at all.





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This is a knee-jerk article, if ever there was one. BR is doing fine. Its easy to see how well its doing, just by watching it take over more and more shelf space at the major retailers and rental outlets. The same thing happened with DVD, and the same doubts ran amok for years... and then one day, VHS just went belly up. Around the same day that DVDs hit $20 (for a new one), I think. When (not if) BR discs hit $20... DVD will just plain die as a standard.

DVD has no chance. The industry has already decided that DVDs are too easy to copy, and that movies are too easy to compress and share. BR offers protection to those companies that DVD can never hope to achieve. DVD has lost already, because the powers that pay to manufacture them will simply choose to oust them eventually, because its better for them from a financial perspective. As soon as BR discs hit $20, DVD will be old news... it won't be as long as you think.



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He has a point... What will grow faster? BR or Digital downloads? I thought it was funny how he failed to mention the 360... it does have an asston more system's in US homes than the iFail that Apple put out to hook up to your TV.



Groucho said:
This is a knee-jerk article, if ever there was one. BR is doing fine. Its easy to see how well its doing, just by watching it take over more and more shelf space at the major retailers and rental outlets. The same thing happened with DVD, and the same doubts ran amok for years... and then one day, VHS just went belly up. Around the same day that DVDs hit $20 (for a new one), I think. When (not if) BR discs hit $20... DVD will just plain die as a standard.

DVD has no chance. The industry has already decided that DVDs are too easy to copy, and that movies are too easy to compress and share. BR offers protection to those companies that DVD can never hope to achieve. DVD has lost already, because the powers that pay to manufacture them will simply choose to oust them eventually, because its better for them from a financial perspective. As soon as BR discs hit $20, DVD will be old news... it won't be as long as you think.

If Blu-Ray has such strong protection, why can I download 1080p Blu-Ray rip movies before the movies are officially released?

Beyond that, in a large part because of how bad VHS was, the difference between VHS and DVD seemed much larger than the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray.

VHS

Upscaled DVD

HD-DVD



Why the pictures of an upscaled DVD movie (upscaled to 720p, it looks like) vs HD-DVD (raw 720p), when we're talking about plain-ole DVD vs Blu-Ray? No upscaling, we're talking raw 480p vs raw 1080p here.

Blu-Ray kicks DVD all over the field on a 1080p TV, just like DVD did to VHS... as a matter of fact, in *very* much the same manner, as the vertical resolution differences are very similar when comparing VHS-vs-DVD against DVD-vs-BluRay.

You can argue that the transition from 248 vertical (or 224 or whatever VHS rez was, I forget exactly) to 480 vertical was more easily perceived than the difference between 480 vertical and 1080 vertical, but I think I'd have to say that, visually, it's still a pretty significant upgrade. Of course, I own a 1080p TV, and a PS3, and can see the difference pretty easily. If you own a 720p TV, and play all your 480p DVDs with upscaling hardware, then you won't notice as big a difference.

In any case, it seems that all, and I mean ALL, of the retailers disagree with this guy -- major retailers don't devote valuable shelf space to failing formats, if you didn't know. The Blu-Ray space has increased dramatically in the past year... meaning there's money ($$) behind it. ...and where there's money at retail, there's success, plain and simple. It doesn't get much more obvious than that.



@ original Post, how can you believe this. With the exception of that 1 week mentioned in your article, Blu Ray has been increasing market share constantly.

It will drive DVD into obsolescence, and atm is doing so at a similar rate that DVD did over VCR.

The Bluray sales pattern will be extremely similar to dvd
Take ages to overcome its predecessor - check
Force that out of business and have a year or two with no competition - soon
A new competitor arises (downloads/holographic/a better disc), yet struggles against the incumbent blu-ray - a while off yet
Blu-Ray stops selling - Still a long time till this