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Honestly it looks to have turned out better than I expected. Not great but not terrible which given the circumstances may be the best you could hope for. Bolded the important parts

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26884523/

WASHINGTON - Congressional leaders and the Bush administration agreed Sunday on the main elements of a $700 billion bailout for the financial industry, paving the way for swift enactment of the largest government intervention in markets since the Great Depression.

Negotiators sought to iron out the final shape of the legislation and it still had to be reviewed by House Republicans, whose fierce opposition to a federal rescue nearly torpedoed an emerging bipartisan pact late in the week. Officials in both parties said they hoped for a House vote Monday.

“We’ve still got more to do to finalize it, but I think we’re there,” said Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who participated in the talks at the Capitol.

The measure would create a program that lets the government spend unprecedented sums of public money to prop up tottering financial institutions by buying their sagging mortgage-based investments and other devalued assets.

A breakthrough came when Democrats agreed to incorporate a GOP demand — letting the government insure some bad home loans rather than buy them — designed to limit the amount of federal money used in the rescue.

Another important bargain, vital to attracting support from centrist Democrats and Republicans who are fiscal hawks, would require that financial firms repay the government for any losses. A leading proposal would impose a 2 percent tax on the companies if, after five years, the program had not made back what it spent.

“This is the bottom line: If we do not do this, the trauma, the chaos and the disruption to everyday Americans’ lives will be overwhelming, and that’s a price we can’t afford to risk paying,” Sen. Judd Gregg, the chief Senate Republican in the talks, told The Associated Press on Sunday. “I do think we’ll be able to pass it, and it will be a bipartisan vote.”

Congressional leaders, who announced the tentative deal after marathon negotiations that ended early Sunday, hope to have a House vote Monday; a Senate vote would come later.

The presidential nominees came behind the outlines of the bailout. “This is something that all of us will swallow hard and go forward with,” said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. “The option of doing nothing is simply not an acceptable option.”

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., sought credit for taxpayer safeguards added to the initial proposal from the Bush administration. “I was pushing very hard and involved in shaping those provisions,” he said.

Under the plan, the government would purchase mortgage-backed securities and other bad debts held by banks and other investors. The money should help troubled lenders make new loans and keep credit lines open. The government would later try to sell the discounted loan packages at the best possible price.

The legislation would place “reasonable” limits on severance packages for executives of companies that benefit from the rescue plan, said a senior administration official who was authorized to speak only on background.

The government would receive stock warrants in return for the bailout relief, giving taxpayers a chance to share in financial companies’ future profits.

To help struggling homeowners, the plan would require the government to try renegotiating the bad mortgages it acquires with the aim of lowering borrowers’ monthly payments so they can keep their homes.

“Nobody got everything they wanted,” said Democratic Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. He predicted it would pass, though not by a large majority.

Gregg, R-N.H., said he thinks taxpayers will come out as financial winners. “I don’t think we’re going to lose money, myself. We may, it’s possible, but I doubt it in the long run,” he said.

Frank appeared on C-SPAN, Obama was on CBS’ “Face the Nation,” while McCain spoke on “This Week” on ABC.



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Looks like things could have turned out a lot worse, so I am happy.



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I need a bailout for my student loan. It's a great hardship on me and is affecting the business that I provide to Gamestop, Amazon, Best Buy, Borders, Barnes and Noble, the supermarket, the gas station, and my land lord.

Can't they see that my debt is a far reaching, systemic problem that must be rescued lest the economy around me fall to its knees?



Yay for devaluing the dollar and causing more economic uncertainty for future generations.



Crisis Averted!

w00t!



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i dont think the crisis is over yet possibly the worst is over but i dunno



The crisis is nowhere near over. This is how we become socialists. It's a long and hard war, and we just won the first battle. MWAHAHAHAHA!!!



Let's see how the market reacts this week (an enthusiastic Monday surge followed by a fall wouldn't surprise me).



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I wonder how big the debt of the government will be this year.






The Ghost of RubangB said:
The crisis is nowhere near over. This is how we become socialists. It's a long and hard war, and we just won the first battle. MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Socialists Unite!

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson