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zexen_lowe on 28 September 2008
Kane said:

 

what i do find amusing about the penalties today : going into pit and tank during safetycar : 10sec stop and go endanger cars : drivethrough

 

I think it's the first time ever that I agree with you.The "no-pit during safety car till the order is given" is a stupid rule




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Tispower1 on 28 September 2008

I agree with Zexen, Mass only drives well when he is im front. Frankly he didn't really drive that well at all, after the pit stop at one point his lap times were 5 seconds off the pace! Though personally I felt sorry for the Red Bulls, having got themselves so far up the field and to lose their places due to technical problems! Unlike Massa, who just got the bad end for the stupid Ferrai pit light system.

However, Alonso's race was great, just goes to show he's on a par with Kimi and Lewis. Rosberg's race was also good, nice to see another UK team on the podium :) And another good race by Vettel, he's definately a decent driver, there's so many of them! Next season will be good!



Tispower1 on 28 September 2008
zexen_lowe said:
Kane said:

 

what i do find amusing about the penalties today : going into pit and tank during safetycar : 10sec stop and go endanger cars : drivethrough

 

I think it's the first time ever that I agree with you.The "no-pit during safety car till the order is given" is a stupid rule

 

However, it does give the period when it is opened, when everyone dives into the pit lane, which makes pitting less likely to losr you loads of places, as it normally would under a safety car.



zexen_lowe on 28 September 2008
Tispower1 said:
zexen_lowe said:
Kane said:

 

what i do find amusing about the penalties today : going into pit and tank during safetycar : 10sec stop and go endanger cars : drivethrough

 

I think it's the first time ever that I agree with you.The "no-pit during safety car till the order is given" is a stupid rule

 

However, it does give the period when it is opened, when everyone dives into the pit lane, which makes pitting less likely to losr you loads of places, as it normally would under a safety car.

Yes, but sometimes you're running out of fuel, you have no choice but to pit. I wouldn't mind if the order was given inmediately (or at least when all cars are behind the safety car, which only takes half a lap or less), but they delay giving the order too much, this time it was given 3 laps after the safety car went out

 




Munkeh111 on 28 September 2008
Tispower1 said:
I agree with Zexen, Mass only drives well when he is im front. Frankly he didn't really drive that well at all, after the pit stop at one point his lap times were 5 seconds off the pace! Though personally I felt sorry for the Red Bulls, having got themselves so far up the field and to lose their places due to technical problems! Unlike Massa, who just got the bad end for the stupid Ferrai pit light system.

However, Alonso's race was great, just goes to show he's on a par with Kimi and Lewis. Rosberg's race was also good, nice to see another UK team on the podium :) And another good race by Vettel, he's definately a decent driver, there's so many of them! Next season will be good!

I'm sorry, but before the safety car stuff, Massa was pulling away from Hamilton and quickly, and in the qualifying, he put in a lap which was 0.6 of a second faster than 2nd, when most of the rest of the field was separated by about 1 second.

 



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Tispower1 on 28 September 2008
Munkeh111 said:
Tispower1 said:
I agree with Zexen, Mass only drives well when he is im front. Frankly he didn't really drive that well at all, after the pit stop at one point his lap times were 5 seconds off the pace! Though personally I felt sorry for the Red Bulls, having got themselves so far up the field and to lose their places due to technical problems! Unlike Massa, who just got the bad end for the stupid Ferrai pit light system.

However, Alonso's race was great, just goes to show he's on a par with Kimi and Lewis. Rosberg's race was also good, nice to see another UK team on the podium :) And another good race by Vettel, he's definately a decent driver, there's so many of them! Next season will be good!

I'm sorry, but before the safety car stuff, Massa was pulling away from Hamilton and quickly, and in the qualifying, he put in a lap which was 0.6 of a second faster than 2nd, when most of the rest of the field was separated by about 1 second.

 

Exactnly, before the safety car! The indication of a good driver is consistancy, which so far Massa has not shown us, especially his performance for the most part in the rain. Today Alonso has consistant pace, that's why he won.

 



Munkeh111 on 28 September 2008
Tispower1 said:
Munkeh111 said:
Tispower1 said:
I agree with Zexen, Mass only drives well when he is im front. Frankly he didn't really drive that well at all, after the pit stop at one point his lap times were 5 seconds off the pace! Though personally I felt sorry for the Red Bulls, having got themselves so far up the field and to lose their places due to technical problems! Unlike Massa, who just got the bad end for the stupid Ferrai pit light system.

However, Alonso's race was great, just goes to show he's on a par with Kimi and Lewis. Rosberg's race was also good, nice to see another UK team on the podium :) And another good race by Vettel, he's definately a decent driver, there's so many of them! Next season will be good!

I'm sorry, but before the safety car stuff, Massa was pulling away from Hamilton and quickly, and in the qualifying, he put in a lap which was 0.6 of a second faster than 2nd, when most of the rest of the field was separated by about 1 second.

 

Exactnly, before the safety car! The indication of a good driver is consistancy, which so far Massa has not shown us, especially his performance for the most part in the rain. Today Alonso has consistant pace, that's why he won.

 

Well he lost confidence after the hose pipe issue, imagine sitting at the end of the pit lane wondering what is going on. Alonso won because he drove well, his car was very quick all weekend, and the Renault strategy worked

 



Tispower1 on 28 September 2008
Munkeh111 said:
Tispower1 said:
Munkeh111 said:
Tispower1 said:
I agree with Zexen, Mass only drives well when he is im front. Frankly he didn't really drive that well at all, after the pit stop at one point his lap times were 5 seconds off the pace! Though personally I felt sorry for the Red Bulls, having got themselves so far up the field and to lose their places due to technical problems! Unlike Massa, who just got the bad end for the stupid Ferrai pit light system.

However, Alonso's race was great, just goes to show he's on a par with Kimi and Lewis. Rosberg's race was also good, nice to see another UK team on the podium :) And another good race by Vettel, he's definately a decent driver, there's so many of them! Next season will be good!

I'm sorry, but before the safety car stuff, Massa was pulling away from Hamilton and quickly, and in the qualifying, he put in a lap which was 0.6 of a second faster than 2nd, when most of the rest of the field was separated by about 1 second.

 

Exactnly, before the safety car! The indication of a good driver is consistancy, which so far Massa has not shown us, especially his performance for the most part in the rain. Today Alonso has consistant pace, that's why he won.

 

Well he lost confidence after the hose pipe issue, imagine sitting at the end of the pit lane wondering what is going on. Alonso won because he drove well, his car was very quick all weekend, and the Renault strategy worked

 

 

That my point, he hardly drove well if he lost confidence, didn't like Schumacher once come from the back of the pack to win it once?