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DonWii on 15 July 2007
DonWii said:
DonWii said:
DonWii said:
naznatips said:
ckmlb said:
There have been big 3rd party announcements all year for the 360 and PS3.

There weren't many new games announced at E3, but everyone was talking about how the Wii was gonna have a turn around with 3rd parties at E3 and nothing of the sort happened.

So when is this big 3rd party support supposed to come?

I don't remember people suggesting specifically lots of 3rd party Wii stuff, though MoH Wii with 32 player online was pretty huge. Personally, I have said time and time again that since 3rd parties didn't anounce shift in focus for the Wii till a couple months ago, you won't see the effects of this shift till 2008. People jump on any opportunity to criticize the Wii though, so the creation of this topic does not surprise me (nor does your reply ckmlb).


Well said, naznatips.

Simple: Third parties made up their minds before the Wii launched that they would support PS3/360. Analysts did not expect it to sell, no one did. The PS3/360 projects coming out have been in development for a while.

Once the Wii showed that it was here to stay, many third parties have begun to support it. Sure, quite a number of projects are quick cash ins, because they want to make some money this holiday season. They know the Wii is selling, will be selling in the holiday season. They are not going to have big projects ready, so they get out whatever they can. All of the simple/mini-games/ports are coming out this year. I did not hear any company announcing mini-games for 2008. They are putting everything in for the holiday. It is a last-minute strategy.

Alongside these, however, there ARE good games coming. And, in 2008, we will see some of the bigger projects that third parties are cooking up. You COULD SPECULATE that they are not coming, but I say they are being developed as we speak.


@ckmlb,

What I posted earlier, which you just happen to overlook, explains the current situation.

As you said, games like No More Heores are what the Wii needs. However, Suda51 showed their support for the Wii early. Hence, why we are getting a quality title. Capcom and Konami, Zack and Wiki and Deweys Adventure, also unique solid titles that are coming to the Wii (Although I will admit that they look a tad to kid friendly for my own taste, but the gameplay seems uniqe andgreat).

I have argued this many many times: IMO,Western based companies are the main leaders of casual stuff for the Wii. They are also some of the latest to realize the Wii's potential, and the ones throwing us some shovel ware. They have, along with many other big third party develpers, their bigger projects, which they started before they saw the success of the Wii, coming to the 360/PS3 this year and early next year. I wont argue that.

But as you said yourself, "Believe me there is almost nothing on PS3 or 360 3rd party that I want to play as much as No More Heroes on the Wii." We just have to wait longer, because no one saw what a huge success the Wii would be.

 

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Maybe if I add some color....

 



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Wojtas on 15 July 2007
ckmlb said:
For someone who's so mature Bodhesatva seems to keep switching between liking traditional games and the new Wii type games a lot.

Whenever it's time to criticize the PS3 and 360 games he points out that they are violent teen games but for the Wii those games are perfectly fine and should be bought.

I'm not getting emotional for being called a fanboy. If I was I would be off being emotional or something I wouldn't be continuing to post here.

I got used to it a long time ago on this site that most of the people are Wii people for lack of a better term and they will attack me every time I criticize the Wii or the big N.

 Ohh please just quit it with the Nintendo fanboy attacks. You're quite stuck up, you know that?  You criticize people just the same when they say something bad about future PS3 games. Hence what was said about MGS 4 earlier on this thread. 



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Bodhesatva on 15 July 2007
ckmlb said:
For someone who's so mature Bodhesatva seems to keep switching between liking traditional games and the new Wii type games a lot.

Whenever it's time to criticize the PS3 and 360 games he points out that they are violent teen games but for the Wii those games are perfectly fine and should be bought.

Name one violent Wii game I plan to buy, please. Thanks! 



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robjoh on 15 July 2007
libellule said:
==> OK, Wii possess more third party games and they are exclusive to Wii (opposed to Xbox360/PS3)
but who cares of these wii games, right now ?
Third party devellopper most wanted games :

Assassin creed / soul calibur 4 / resident evil 5 / CoD4/ UT3/ GTA4 / PEs2008
nothing on the Wii

I may have forget some game but sincerely, we all know that FOR THE MOMENT
tihrd party games for Wii are absolutely NOT the most anticipated games that are coming to be released. None of these third party game are RIGHT NOW a most wanted games, even for some Wii owners big Nintendo fan.

 Actualy no, I don't care about those games. My most wanted game (not just 3rd parties) is Zack and Wiki, because I miss the old point and click adventures. I also want Dewy because I like plattformers.

I  have never liked a real life football simulators because I rather play myself or arcade like stuff. GTA has I totaly played around 2 hours not my type of game, but for those who likes it it might be great.



 

 

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twesterm on 15 July 2007
Bodhesatva said:

Updating the Wii list as I think of new stuff. Other people help me out!

...

I'm still not including budget titles, by the way.


 Are Rayman 2 and Rayma: Raving Rabbids 2 the same game or was there another Raman game announced?  Also, still no DBZ: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 love.  ;_;



 

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ckmlb on 15 July 2007

In a debate you try to make your point. People said there is more third party Wii support than 360 and PS3 3rd party support so I obliged and showed them the list of recent 3rd party games announced for those consoles.

If you want to say that it's a point of view of course it is that is what a debate is, two or more people arguing their points of view.



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Wojtas on 15 July 2007
Bodhesatva said:

Updating the Wii list as I think of new stuff. Other people help me out!

Soul Calibur Legends
Space Station Tycoon
Mario And Sonic
Nights
Rygar
Zack and Wiki
RE: UC
Rayman 2
My Word Coach
Red Steel 2
Boogie
Mysims
Smarty Pants
Dragon Blade: Wrath of Fire
Blast Works: Build, Fuse and Destroy
Trauma Center 2
Dewy's Adventure
Destroy All Humans
Big Willy Unleashed
De Blob
Medal of Honor
Furu Furu Park
Bleach
Real Heroes
Forever Blue
Geometry Wars
Chocobo Dungeons
Carnival Games
Rayman Ravind Rabbids 2
Reeled!
Agatha Christie
Destiny of Zorro
Dave Mirra BMX Challenge
One Piece: Unlimited Adventure
Opoona
EA Playground
Cosmic Family
Nitrobike
Ghost Squad
Godzilla Unleashed
SD Gundam: Scad Hammers
Fishing Master
Cruis'n

I'm still not including budget titles, by the way.


 Umm well you sure got my number :P. Cant think of any more at the moment.



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libellule on 15 July 2007

COME ON,

I know that we have different opinion,
I know some will appreciate these third party game,
but if u care about the mass market, if u care about gamers, and not some gamers isolate but the majority,
U HAVE TO GO BEYOND UR OPINION TO SEE WHAT WILL SELL OR NOT

example : I dont care of GTA but I know this is a critical games that will sell a lot
It is even a system seller.
Exactly the same about PES2008

what about exclusive Wii third party games RIGHT NOW ?

Except DQ (third party game or not?), I see nothing very appealing for the medium average gamer.
Sorry.
After since Wii is opening the market, things could be different ...
I should maybe not only focus on gamer, even casual gamer that love PES2008/GTA4, and try to care about special gamer that will love exclusive Wii third party game but I dont know these guys ...
Then I should say nothing
Sorry again.



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Bodhesatva on 15 July 2007
twesterm said:
Bodhesatva said:

Updating the Wii list as I think of new stuff. Other people help me out!

...

I'm still not including budget titles, by the way.


Are Rayman 2 and Rayma: Raving Rabbids 2 the same game or was there another Raman game announced? Also, still no DBZ: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 love. ;_;


 No, that's a repeat, I'll take the second off the list. And I'll add Budokai shortly then :p



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robjoh on 15 July 2007
libellule said:
COME ON,

I know that we have different opinion,
I know some will appreciate these third party game,
but if u care about the mass market, if u care about gamers, and not some gamers isolate but the majority,
U HAVE TO GO BEYOND UR OPINION TO SEE WHAT WILL SELL OR NOT

example : I dont care of GTA but I know this is a critical games that will sell a lot
It is even a system seller.
Exactly the same about PES2008

what about exclusive Wii third party games RIGHT NOW ?

Except DQ (third party game or not?), I see nothing very appealing for the medium average gamer.
Sorry.
After since Wii is opening the market, things could be different ...
I should maybe not only focus on gamer, even casual gamer that love PES2008/GTA4, and try to care about special gamer that will love exclusive Wii third party game but I dont know these guys ...
Then I should say nothing
Sorry again.

Well for the first I don't think Nintendo needs system seller 3rd party games, Wii Sport/play/fir will do the trick with the old Mario ect. I think Nintendo needs solid 3rd party games in between those games so that they don't end up with a N64 again.

EDIT: and DQ is from SE and is their biggest japanese game series, much bigger than FF. 



 

 

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