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rocketpig said:
Wait, are you guys actually arguing whether this was a political ploy or not?

It's one month from the election. At this point, everything McCain and Obama do is a political ploy.

 

Well, we wouldn't have to argue it if some people weren't trying to say that he was doing this without any ulterior motives.



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It was a political ploy, just the same as Obama's refusal to join him. Obama couldn't let himself appear as if he was following McCain's lead.

Still, it's not a bad idea if both of them would have agreed to go. That's what would have really been best for the country. As it stands now, the Dems are just going to fight McCain for every inch to delay and make him look bad while the Republicans will try to push through anything to make him look good. Great. This should end up as a big win all around for the American taxpayer.

Meh, I hate election politics.




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rocket it may be a ploy by the dems to not follow suit, but this is straight from the communists handbook.
following the lead is how the nationalists gave china to the commies!



theprof00 said:
rocket it may be a ploy by the dems to not follow suit, but this is straight from the communists handbook.
following the lead is how the nationalists gave china to the commies!

Uh, what?




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rocketpig said:

It was a political ploy, just the same as Obama's refusal to join him. Obama couldn't let himself appear as if he was following McCain's lead.

Still, it's not a bad idea if both of them would have agreed to go. That's what would have really been best for the country. As it stands now, the Dems are just going to fight McCain for every inch to delay and make him look bad while the Republicans will try to push through anything to make him look good. Great. This should end up as a big win all around for the American taxpayer.

Meh, I hate election politics.

 

I disagree.  I think the *best* thing they could have done was exactly what Obama suggested - release a bipartisan statement to the US and Congress (Obama noticed a number of similarities in their stances on the bailout), without either of them saying "this was my idea". 

If you will take note, Obama quietly called McCain about this instead of announcing it to the media.  He was truly going for a bipartisan statement, with neither side taking credit for leadership, and then McCain turns it into political drama.  The moment McCain decided he needed to take leadership and blindside Obama on this, he turned it into a partisan mess.

Fortunately the bailout seems to be making speedy progress, so there will be no excuses to ditch the first debate.



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I just saw CNN and both republican and democrat congressmen have now come to an agreement. They also said it was the most bipartisan meeting they ever had where real issues were talked about. Too bad it takes this to have that happen.



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communist came to power because of japanese invasion.
nationalists were killing off the rest of the commies, and then the commies were like.
"WAIT! We need to stop the threat from the Japanese, we need to save our country!!!!!"
nationalists followed suit and soon enough hundreds of thousands joined the commies because they were "in their best interest", even thoug it was an escape tactic.



Sansui said:
rocketpig said:

It was a political ploy, just the same as Obama's refusal to join him. Obama couldn't let himself appear as if he was following McCain's lead.

Still, it's not a bad idea if both of them would have agreed to go. That's what would have really been best for the country. As it stands now, the Dems are just going to fight McCain for every inch to delay and make him look bad while the Republicans will try to push through anything to make him look good. Great. This should end up as a big win all around for the American taxpayer.

Meh, I hate election politics.

 

I disagree.  I think the *best* thing they could have done was exactly what Obama suggested - release a bipartisan statement to the US and Congress (Obama noticed a number of similarities in their stances on the bailout), without either of them saying "this was my idea". 

If you will take note, Obama quietly called McCain about this instead of announcing it to the media.  He was truly going for a bipartisan statement, with neither side taking credit for leadership, and then McCain turns it into political drama.  The moment McCain decided he needed to take leadership and blindside Obama on this, he turned it into a partisan mess.

Fortunately the bailout seems to be making speedy progress, so there will be no excuses to ditch the first debate.

I've also heard that McCain contacted Obama first.

You can try to prop up Obama on this one but I think we're all being fed a load of bullshit. Both candidates made it pretty clear that this was a partisan issue when they stumped it on the campaign trail for a solid week before Congress started up with this bill.

I'm sorry but open your eyes. Obama is just as full of shit as McCain. They were both using this for political gain long before McCain made this announcement.

 




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theprof00 said:
communist came to power because of japanese invasion.
nationalists were killing off the rest of the commies, and then the commies were like.
"WAIT! We need to stop the threat from the Japanese, we need to save our country!!!!!"
nationalists followed suit and soon enough hundreds of thousands joined the commies because they were "in their best interest", even thoug it was an escape tactic.

I know the history of how the Communists gained power in China.

Again...

Uh, what? Obama and McCain working together to keep the economy solvent have nothing to do with Communists nor the Chinese.

Wait... Joe McCarthy, izzatyou?




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are you kidding? they are passing this deal?!?!
In it the secretary calls for the 700B to be no-strings attached.
It is now his money to do what he sees fit with it.... what the hell happened.