Aj_habfan said: MANUELF said: Aj_habfan said: MANUELF said: hunter_alien said: Hmmm let us see: hardware makes money. Check. Big players like Sony, Capcom, SE, Namco-Bandai, Konami, EA are making money on software. Check. Japanese game library increasing a lot. Check. Sony promisses more 3rd party syupport next year, Gamestop aknowledges and says its true.... so no I dont think that its dead, or that it will be anytime soon ;)    Not all of them, at least EA and SE are losing money on the PSP If that is increasing a lot then what is the japanese DS library. More multiplatform titles?     You sure EA is losing money on PSP?   http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5489®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7546®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7548®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=274®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1297®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5294®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7177®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5847®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5484®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1577®ion=All         So NFS, Madden and Fifa sell on PSP?     Very well. Do you have a list of all these titles that are losing money on PSP?

Im too lazy to check

 

labrats5 said: axumblade said: labrats5 said: @mike_intellivision What are you smoking? The PSone and PS2 were billed as multifunctional CD and DVD players respectively. They were huge selling points early in their lives, particularly for the PS2. It was one of the big things that killed the Dreamcast actually: the PS2's DVD player was the reason a lot of people waited for it. The reason this didn't work for the PSP was that it wasn't a particularly good multifuctional device. UMD was a terrible idea from the beginning. Being able to play digital media was aslo bsically useles without either an online store or any built in storage (particularly that last bit). On launch, 2gb memory sticks cost upward of $50; another proprietary format that bit Sony in the ass. The point is that it is rediculously stupid to say that being multi-functional is somehow a handicap. As long as all those functions work well and work well together, it is a huge boon. Many times they can actually be synergetic, as in the case of Monster Rancher, or the location-based functionality of many iphone games, or simply the abilty to play your own music on the same device when the soundtrack sucks. What killed the PSP was poor execution of its non-gaming functionality (especially UMD), as well as rampant piracy. I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I've heard they are going to make the Playstation Network accessible through the PSP and they are going to start doing more releases via the PSN then. Also, you'll be able to download movies (and if Sony are smart, put access to digital music). It will also cut down on piracy supposedly because it would be a direct download from the PSN. This could be wrong information that I was given though.   Yep, PSP will be able to access the PSN store this Fall (this was announced for NA) There's a free music and music video streaming through vidzone on PSN and downloadable music (presumably Music tab on PSN) coming Q1 and Q3 09 (this was announced for Europe)   It is very probable. But it is not enough. With no onboard storage, as well as the expensive proprietary memory stick, the PSP has no good storage solution. No matter how good their online store is, it is only as good as their storage allows it to be. What a lot of people don't understand is that if Sony had released the exact same PSP except with no media functionality at all, it would have sold better. While well executed media functionalty can help sell a platform, bad functionality can stop it from selling, even if it doesn't hurt the gaming aspect of it. It hurts the reputation of the platform when a function that was billed as system selling ends up beinga dud. And that failure takes the focus away from what really matters: the games.   Sony fucked up because of proprietary things on PSP and Walkman and their Atrac, walkman is now behind zune, creative labs, philips, samsung and of course ipod in MP3 players market share. The PSP, while being the most succesful non nintendo handheld ever, could've been a lot more had Sony given it access to PSN a lot earlier and given it Flash Memory like the Itouch or a HDD. I also feel it would've benefitted from a 2nd analog.

 

With that said I'm still getting one, I can get a lot of games for cheap plus I can actually download from the store and run them from the disk which would be better than having multiple UMDs. The PSP has some big name games coming out for the next year, but it's missing the shovelware and the mid name games, as well as west developed games.

 

jman8 said: Considering the dying third party support and the fact that Apple has aimed squarely at the PSP market with the Iphone and Ipod Touch, how can Sony not release a follow up to the PSP within a year? Sony has no choice.

I don't think so, even if gaming on iphone/itouch takes off there, consoles have proven that you can have 3 competitors on the market at the same time.

One thing I like about apple though is the open sdk, Sony should take a page out of that book, let any joe schmoe out there buy the sdk for a couple of grand and develop games, you put the games on psn, joe schmoe sets the price for his game and you charge a fee for putting his game on your store. Really smart thing from Apple IMO.

MANUELF said: Aj_habfan said: MANUELF said: Aj_habfan said: MANUELF said: hunter_alien said: Hmmm let us see: hardware makes money. Check. Big players like Sony, Capcom, SE, Namco-Bandai, Konami, EA are making money on software. Check. Japanese game library increasing a lot. Check. Sony promisses more 3rd party syupport next year, Gamestop aknowledges and says its true.... so no I dont think that its dead, or that it will be anytime soon ;)   Not all of them, at least EA and SE are losing money on the PSP If that is increasing a lot then what is the japanese DS library. More multiplatform titles?     You sure EA is losing money on PSP?   http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5489®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7546®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7548®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=274®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1297®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5294®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7177®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5847®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=5484®ion=All http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1577®ion=All         So NFS, Madden and Fifa sell on PSP?     Very well. Do you have a list of all these titles that are losing money on PSP? Im too lazy to check

 

LOL that's usually what people say when they can't prove a point.

I really hope it isn't, Im planning to get one once the 3000 is released.

Plus, the japanese third party titles really need to come to NA, like Suikoden, Various Tales games etc.

Yes. I predict a PSP2 next year.

almost 40 million sold!!!! i realy dont see how its doomed !!!
- awesome releases coming out late this year
- psp 3000 is being released

this thread confuzzles me

I play classic ps1 games via remoteplay while im at work for crying out loud !!!
how the FFFFFFF is it doomed
OUWWW my head .... i think my nose is bleeding............"faint

This whole thread is ridiculous.

Low PSP software sales have nothing to do with "piracy" as it simply doesn't have anywhere near the effect on sales as the industry want you to believe. If it did, then all of the major record labels and Hollywood studios would have gone out of business years ago as it's been possible to download an artist's entire discography or a truckload of DVD's for a long time now. I could give a laundry list of reasons for the PSP's low software sales, but the biggest reason is that Sony didn't focus enough on the games and really failed to push it as a portable gaming device and instead pushed the multimedia features more than what was necessary. This effectively turned it into a PMP that also happened to play games.

Also, the PSP is neither dead nor dying. The hardware sales speak enough for that.

Likely sony is going to close its psp department..

konnichiwa said: Strange to read this when Level 5 just announced two new Level 5 games.

 

I was thinking the same thing as well, along with the SE announcements just 1 month ago.  Apparently, Japanese devs don't count, because it seems the opposite is happening with them than what the article states.