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papflesje said:
Oh yes... kids... Is that what`s Sony relying on? Kids that can`t afford a ps3 ? What will those kids be doing with a Blueray player? What about built in wifi ?

Motor Storm ? What about Pure,Baja,Fuel and all those other similar games?

GT5 ? What about Forza 3? PGR4 ? Other simulators,etc.

What i don`t understand is how anyone cold be loyal to a brand that costs double and offers a lot less,but gives you stuff you don`t need?


Yeah, because I said that sony relies on children *rolls eyes*

As I've stated in another thread: Many people in Belgium still focus on Sony because of quality and brand name (quality ties into the RroD).

But yeah, you're right. They are only targetting children because they want their moneyz so that they cannot buy teh cookiez!11!1

@ selnor: that may very well be true, but I imagine most kids having a bigger influence on their parents nowadays when it comes to "gimme gimme gimme" (spoiled is a word that fits the current generation quite well)

Evade me as long as you can,but you can`t ignore the facts. 360 offers more for a lot less. The end. Not everyone has 400 euro and still not get a lot of great games. The 360 gives you hardcore and casual games,and a lot of them. No,it doesn`t have Blueray,wifi,or a HDD,but for 180 euro it`s a great GAME console,you can play online and save games and you don`t need "Blueray,wifi,or a HDD" for that.

Quality? I say brand loyalty,because the Falcon 360 is quality. Read it and then talk -> http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152  .

When Jasper comes this or next month,we will talk again,richboy. But what about the others that are not rich? Dream of the ps3 or "Jump In" with the 360? It can play games too *rolls eyes*.

 



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zeross said:
Gran Turismo 5 + 249 euro PS3 = bye bye 360 and good morning wii :d

249€ for PS3 would mean bye bye for sony. :P

 

PS3 is here still 460€ and you can get Xbox arcade for 180€, I wonder which one regular cosumer would pick up... :D

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Stan85 said:
papflesje said:
Oh yes... kids... Is that what`s Sony relying on? Kids that can`t afford a ps3 ? What will those kids be doing with a Blueray player? What about built in wifi ?

Motor Storm ? What about Pure,Baja,Fuel and all those other similar games?

GT5 ? What about Forza 3? PGR4 ? Other simulators,etc.

What i don`t understand is how anyone cold be loyal to a brand that costs double and offers a lot less,but gives you stuff you don`t need?


Yeah, because I said that sony relies on children *rolls eyes*

As I've stated in another thread: Many people in Belgium still focus on Sony because of quality and brand name (quality ties into the RroD).

But yeah, you're right. They are only targetting children because they want their moneyz so that they cannot buy teh cookiez!11!1

@ selnor: that may very well be true, but I imagine most kids having a bigger influence on their parents nowadays when it comes to "gimme gimme gimme" (spoiled is a word that fits the current generation quite well)

Evade me as long as you can,but you can`t ignore the facts. 360 offers more for a lot less. The end. Not everyone has 400 euro and still not get a lot of great games. The 360 gives you hardcore and casual games,and a lot of them. No,it doesn`t have Blueray,wifi,or a HDD,but for 180 euro it`s a great GAME console,you can play online and save games and you don`t need "Blueray,wifi,or a HDD" for that.

Quality? I say brand loyalty,because the Falcon 360 is quality. Read it and then talk -> http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152  .

When Jasper comes this or next month,we will talk again,richboy. But what about the others that are not rich? Dream of the ps3 or "Jump In" with the 360? It can play games too *rolls eyes*.

 

 

There are some thinks that wont make me buy Xbox 360.My room-mate has it, new one.I played Halo 3 and Ninja gaiden 2.It is loud as my cat.You can get it for 189€,but you have to pay for batteries,you will get 20 or bigger hardware,you need to pay 50€ for playing online!And of course I fear red ring of death. Many of my friends have met it many times, so Im kinda scared about it..

And kids? When I played Skate on Xbox some 11year old kids came and tried to speak english..Very annoying.

Pure,Baja,Fuel = I have heard only about Pure, and its coming to ps3.Against Motorstorm,which have sold about 3.5m?

Forza 3? PGR4 ? Other simulators,etc. = Hah sure Gran turismo has had fight with other racing games but it has always won.Forza 3 has no chance.

 

 



 

 

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Stan85 said:
papflesje said:
Oh yes... kids... Is that what`s Sony relying on? Kids that can`t afford a ps3 ? What will those kids be doing with a Blueray player? What about built in wifi ?

Motor Storm ? What about Pure,Baja,Fuel and all those other similar games?

GT5 ? What about Forza 3? PGR4 ? Other simulators,etc.

What i don`t understand is how anyone cold be loyal to a brand that costs double and offers a lot less,but gives you stuff you don`t need?


Yeah, because I said that sony relies on children *rolls eyes*

As I've stated in another thread: Many people in Belgium still focus on Sony because of quality and brand name (quality ties into the RroD).

But yeah, you're right. They are only targetting children because they want their moneyz so that they cannot buy teh cookiez!11!1

@ selnor: that may very well be true, but I imagine most kids having a bigger influence on their parents nowadays when it comes to "gimme gimme gimme" (spoiled is a word that fits the current generation quite well)

Evade me as long as you can,but you can`t ignore the facts. 360 offers more for a lot less. The end. Not everyone has 400 euro and still not get a lot of great games. The 360 gives you hardcore and casual games,and a lot of them. No,it doesn`t have Blueray,wifi,or a HDD,but for 180 euro it`s a great GAME console,you can play online and save games and you don`t need "Blueray,wifi,or a HDD" for that.

Quality? I say brand loyalty,because the Falcon 360 is quality. Read it and then talk -> http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152  .

When Jasper comes this or next month,we will talk again,richboy. But what about the others that are not rich? Dream of the ps3 or "Jump In" with the 360? It can play games too *rolls eyes*.

 

 

You placed words in my mouth and then I'm supposedly evading you?

I gave you the reason why PS3 is doing better in Belgium and why most people here want it.  You cannot attack them for believing that and for not going Xbox because of (in part) the RRoD.  Others on this site have admitted that the RRoD is a huge reason for them not purchasing the Xbox.  They may have eliminated that greatly because of the Jasper, but that doesn't eliminate the image it still has.  You can't expect people to just go xbox because of a new chip.

And it has nothing to do with "rich".  People here pay more money for a ps3 but they do so willingly.  In the US people also do it, but they prefer the Xbox more, that's their choice.


360 offers more for less... for you.
Here people don't look at it that way and that's their right.  What's wrong with that?  The image of the xbox will be connected to their RROD for some time to come and well... that's the xbox' own fault, you can't blame the consumer who then goes for another console.

 

I've merely told you what my environment and most of my country does, and then you allude that Sony needs small children, and after that you allude that I'm bashing the xbox for not being quality, even after I explained that the RROD has damaged the "quality" aspect of the Xbox for most Belgian people.

What's wrong with the fact that people might buy a PS3 not only for the games, but also for everything else it offers?  And even if they did buy it for the games, what's wrong with that?  You apparently can't stand the fact that we in Belgium (or most of Europe) choose PS3 over Xbox, even with this price difference.



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Doesn't look too swell for the 360 in europe now.

You people can say what you want, but usually the day of the price cut is when demand for it is at its highest. :/



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 Consoles: Wii & PS3.

Forza 3 has no chance... Motorstorm 2 is a system seller... LBP will sell millions... OK,have it your way.

But -> it`s 179 euro,not 189; The battery recharger is 10 euro. Live is 40$ in US for 13 months. You don`t need the HDD,you can save games on the included 256 mb memory card and for Live is all you need.

RRoD is the only true reason for many,but Jasper will take care of that. And the 3 year warranty. But I gues brand loialty takes care of both.



To be honest I dont know how many versions the 360 has gone through that always promises to be the "safe one"... and well... it doesnt look like its helped.



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well, the x360 can do nothing against the ps3, if it's losing in both Europe and Japan.....



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Leni said:
well, the x360 can do nothing against the ps3, if it's losing in both Europe and Japan.....

 

Preliminary numbers show xbox winning in Japan ;)