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TheRealMafoo said:
akuma587 said:
Vote Republican! Because the last 8 years have been great and have been in no way a complete mockery of everything this country was built upon! Republicans also have a great economic record! Our national debt is totally under control and our economy is doing better than ever under the watchful eye of our Republican fathers!

McCain is also a deregulator, and that is what our economic and healthcare system need right now, more deregulation and less oversight from incompetent bureaucrats!

 

Funny, the last 2 of those 8 have fallen under Democratic control (let's be honest here, Congress runs the country), and things have not gotten better. They have gotten worse.

Ummm, tell me how many 2-year terms of those 8 years have we had a Republican controlled Congress?  And tell me how wide of a lead the Democrats currently have in the Senate?  And tell me which party the American public prefers in a general congressional matchup?

I'll just answer them for you.

1. 3 out of 4.

2. 49 to 49 (there are two independents who caucus with the Democrats)

3. Democrats, by a +6.1 average margin according to realclearpolitics.com

Man, ignoring the facts is so convenient when they are so stacked against you!

 



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akuma587 said:

Ummm, tell me how many 2-year terms of those 8 years have we had a Republican controlled Congress?  And tell me how wide of a lead the Democrats currently have in the Senate?  And tell me which party the American public prefers in a general congressional matchup?

I'll just answer them for you.

1. 3 out of 4.

2. 49 to 49 (there are two independents who caucus with the Democrats)

3. Democrats, by a +6.1 average margin according to realclearpolitics.com

Man, ignoring the facts is so convenient when they are so stacked against you!

 

 

Odd, this congress has had the lowest approval rating of all time (18%). 



steven787 said:

Congress is not under Democratic control.  The Senate is 49-49, with two independents.  You need 60 to have power over the president.

 

You need a supermajority of three-fifths (usually 60) to invoke cloture to end a fillibuster. It requires a supermajority of two-thirds to override a presidential veto.



Well, since I am an independent I defiantly won't put my party first lol. Anyways, my friends and I have voted for both sides before and always pick the candidate we think is best for the country. This time it happens to be Obama. We feel he is more honest, has better ideas and more ability to get things done.

Sadly, the more this campaign goes on the less we like him. He is much more negative, barely gives out any ideas of what he is going to do and tells blatant lies. His ideas on the economy are bad at best, as even publications and analysts that are for his own party attest and he himself claimed that he does not know much about the economy. In a time when so much is messing up in the economy we need a leader who can implement good ideas and has good economic advisors. McCain is not that leader. My suggestion to you is to look at everything objectively and not just put on a party hat because your posts come off very partisan.



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TheRealMafoo said:

 

 

Odd, this congress has had the lowest approval rating of all time (18%). 

Odd, the American public is smart enough to figure out that it is the Republicans who are holding back anything from getting done in Congress as demonstrated by their consistent favoritism for Democratic candidates in congressional races.  I guess they aren't as dumb as I thought!

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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Jackson50 said:
akuma587 said:
Vote Republican! Because the last 8 years have been great and have been in no way a complete mockery of everything this country was built upon! Republicans also have a great economic record! Our national debt is totally under control and our economy is doing better than ever under the watchful eye of our Republican fathers!

McCain is also a deregulator, and that is what our economic and healthcare system need right now, more deregulation and less oversight from incompetent bureaucrats!

 

I agree with the bolded parts, but the GOP is not the party that is going to deliver that. The GOP has fallen so far from its principles that it is almost laughable. They deserve what is happening to them. Those incompetent boobs were handed the country on a golden platter in 1994 and choked. Whatever happened to the party of Robert Taft and even Barry Goldwater? If you care about America, you will not vote for John McCain or just about anyone in the GOP. I am not saying Obama is the best choice, but he at least gets certain subjects partially correct (foreign policy.)

 

THe biggest problem is you have two schools of thought. The Conservative philosophy is to collect less taxes, and spend less. The liberal philosophy is to collect more taxes and spend more.

Once you start spending, it's very hard in this country to stop it. We have billions of dollars in programs that should be cut (including parts of the military) that politicians are afraid to cut. So it's virtually impossible to put a conservative program in place.

The #1 issue with the country is spending, and we are about to shell out 700 billion more dollars. When will it ever end?



TheRealMafoo said:

 

THe biggest problem is you have two schools of thought. The Conservative philosophy is to collect less taxes, and spend less. The liberal philosophy is to collect more taxes and spend more.

Once you start spending, it's very hard in this country to stop it. We have billions of dollars in programs that should be cut (including parts of the military) that politicians are afraid to cut. So it's virtually impossible to put a conservative program in place.

The #1 issue with the country is spending, and we are about to shell out 700 billion more dollars. When will it ever end?

Maybe once we stop putting Republicans into office.  They are the ones who have ballooned the national debt, not Democrats.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Aiemond said:
Well, since I am an independent I defiantly won't put my party first lol. Anyways, my friends and I have voted for both sides before and always pick the candidate we think is best for the country. This time it happens to be Obama. We feel he is more honest, has better ideas and more ability to get things done.

Sadly, the more this campaign goes on the less we like him. He is much more negative, barely gives out any ideas of what he is going to do and tells blatant lies. His ideas on the economy are bad at best, as even publications and analysts that are for his own party attest and he himself claimed that he does not know much about the economy. In a time when so much is messing up in the economy we need a leader who can implement good ideas and has good economic advisors. McCain is not that leader. My suggestion to you is to look at everything objectively and not just put on a party hat because your posts come off very partisan.

 

My financial views are very partisan. So are my views on personal choice. If this was a conversion about abortion or gay marriage, you would think I was a starch Democrat. It's about money, so you think I am a Republican.



akuma587 said:
TheRealMafoo said:

 

THe biggest problem is you have two schools of thought. The Conservative philosophy is to collect less taxes, and spend less. The liberal philosophy is to collect more taxes and spend more.

Once you start spending, it's very hard in this country to stop it. We have billions of dollars in programs that should be cut (including parts of the military) that politicians are afraid to cut. So it's virtually impossible to put a conservative program in place.

The #1 issue with the country is spending, and we are about to shell out 700 billion more dollars. When will it ever end?

Maybe once we stop putting Republicans into office.  They are the ones who have ballooned the national debt, not Democrats.

 

 

Who spends the money? Congress. Congress is not Republican.



Well, 6 of the last 8 years they were in and they ballooned the debt. Totally. Many republicans even admit this! They don't like it either. Bush's policies which were helped by his congress, spent money like candy.



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