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rendo on 18 September 2008
cdude1034 said:
Wow. Just wow.

I wasn't going to respond to your ignorance, but I figured it's best not to let others believe how full of it your post is.

The American economy is in the position it's in because the credit institutions in this country lent money to a lot of people who couldn't pay it back. This started a domino effect.

Once the people started defaulting on their loans, these banks started to lose a lot of money. Once they started losing this money, the confidence in these institutions decreased dramatically, so the people who had their money there moved it elsewhere. One of these places was oil, which contributed greatly to the run up in price, but that's a story for another time.

Anyway, this lack of confidence led people who would've otherwise kept or placed their money there to not do so. These institutions didn't have enough capital to "pay the bills" per se, so they went under.

This isn't karma, this was caused by really bad business decisions. It would've unfolded the same if we had an isolationist foreign policy.

The only argument you can make relating FP to this current situation is the fact that if we didn't spend so much on the war, we'd have more bailout money.

Please keep your misinformed editorials off of this website. Thanks.

It's an opinion, and he's entitled to one.  It's ignorant of you wanting him to keep his opinion off the site.

I don't think it's karma.  I agree for the most part with cdude.  Another issue is having no standard and being able to just "print" more money.  The real value of the dollar is NOTHING.  It's a sad system.

 

 



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obieslut on 18 September 2008
cdude1034 said:
Wow. Just wow.

I wasn't going to respond to your ignorance, but I figured it's best not to let others believe how full of it your post is.

The American economy is in the position it's in because the credit institutions in this country lent money to a lot of people who couldn't pay it back. This started a domino effect.

Once the people started defaulting on their loans, these banks started to lose a lot of money. Once they started losing this money, the confidence in these institutions decreased dramatically, so the people who had their money there moved it elsewhere. One of these places was oil, which contributed greatly to the run up in price, but that's a story for another time.

Anyway, this lack of confidence led people who would've otherwise kept or placed their money there to not do so. These institutions didn't have enough capital to "pay the bills" per se, so they went under.

This isn't karma, this was caused by really bad business decisions. It would've unfolded the same if we had an isolationist foreign policy.

The only argument you can make relating FP to this current situation is the fact that if we didn't spend so much on the war, we'd have more bailout money.

Please keep your misinformed editorials off of this website. Thanks.

you have barked up the wrong tree, fully

 



cdude1034 on 18 September 2008

I understand that, but the thing is you were linking the American foreign policy with the credit issues and that's completely untrue, and I just can't let people believe that they're related



 

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obieslut on 18 September 2008

^^^^ I am not stating that they are related in any sence i am just saying like for example, some one calls me an idiot or hit me in my arm, then they fall over minutes latter, then i will say thats Karma that is.

you know just that kind of thing.

America had been having a war and britain, innocent people die in wars, then americas economy starts to fail. thats is karma, in the sense of the last example.



FishyJoe on 18 September 2008

You're comparing America with a leader who tortured and killed millions of Jews in concentration camps? Cmon, you may not like America but to compare it to the Nazis is so crazy I don't even know where to start. Especially when countries like North Korea exist where they actually do torture and exterminate people simply for speaking against their leaders. Not only do the North Koreans torture and kill people, but if you attack the leadership they also punish all your relatives as well.



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cdude1034 on 18 September 2008
obieslut said:
^^^^ I am not stating that they are related in any sence i am just saying like for example, some one calls me an idiot or hit me in my arm, then they fall over minutes latter, then i will say thats Karma that is.

you know just that kind of thing.

America had been having a war and britain, innocent people die in wars, then americas economy starts to fail. thats is karma, in the sense of the last example.

 

Yes, but undoubtedly someone will make the connection. I'll edit my first post.



 

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marciosmg on 18 September 2008
obieslut said:

America had been starting wars on countries which are more or less harmless too them. they have been killing innocent people and have been trying to take over the world.

America is 1)the modden hitler in my opinion. they are bulling nations saying weapons of mass destruction which they have not even found. i am sorry but if america's leaders wants to go around bulling countries 2)then they deserve to get nuked.

Plus 3)if iraq want to blow each other up or whatever country it is then let them, why even get involved, i think iraq was better off before ameria raged war on them and i am sure many of you will agree, and the british leaders are just as stupid aswell, for going along with this.

about the englsih leader saying the ends justifies the means. that is wrong and noone shoudl start war for petty reasons. 4)trying to stop violence by being even more violent does not work in my opinon, what are the upcominggeneration going to think having leaders behaving like this.

if they want to rage war on each other then put the fucking leaders in one room and let them duke it out, dont make peopole who dont care nor want anything to do with it suffer.

 

So back to the title, do you think americas economy is afiling because of all the shit they have done, and england to. do you think it is Karma? i do

 

when i say americans i mean the american president and other various leaders, same goes for england to.

 

1) and 2) I know you probably don´t mean it, but be careful when coming out with these lines. You are talking abut millions of people that died here, have a sense of history. And wishing a nuke on anybody is pretty stupid.

3) If Iraq tries to blow up another country or commit genocide on a segment of it´s people, The US and the UN should intervene.

4) It contradicts your own view in 2)

 

I get your pissed off at the government. But like you said, the end don´t justify the means, and violence only brings more violence. So if you want things to change, vote for a better candidate.

Here is a great line that illustrates my point - "Decisions are made by those who show up"



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Jackson50 on 18 September 2008

This is as stupefying as Jerry Falwell (RIP) or Pat Robertson saying that pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays and lesbians were the causes of both 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina. I am inclined to think that this is a joke post.



super_etecoon on 18 September 2008

I wonder if karma affects Obiesluts as well. You see...that is the problem with karma: it never strikes where you want it to.



HappySqurriel on 18 September 2008

First off, I think the crazy ramblings of the original post should be ignored ...

Beyond that I do believe that Karma exists in the sense that practically everything good or bad that happens to an individual (or organization) is the result of their choices and actions; and (typically) when people make "good" choices or perform "good" actions "good" things happen to them, while when people make "bad" choices or perform "bad" actions "bad" things happen to them.

For a very long time the American government, American citizens, and American corporations have been spending more money than they make (resulting in high debt loads) and making really high risk investments which could be considered very "bad" choices, and as a result the current correction in the ecconomy is (generally) "bad".